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I’m not afraid of opposing views, why should anyone else be?
Published on September 6, 2005 By Rightwinger In Blogging
This has been said before, but I’ll say it again:

Too many people here use the blacklist option simply to silence the opposition. It’s just that simple, and it’s just that sad.
It seems that, if they meet up with someone they don’t like or who slams them particularly hard on some point or points or other, they will just slap a gag across that person’s mouth, silencing them by keeping them from posting on their articles.
I’ve noticed a strange thing, though; most of the blacklisters, or at least as I’ve noticed, are very often some of the most excessively loud advocates of liberal ideals and perspectives, and will often react as if burned with a hot poker when confronted with opposing ideas and/or points of view.
Yes, it’s quite often the liberals here, those staunch defenders of free speech and expression, often profusely reprimanding us conservatives for our repressive ways and our oppressive means, who employ the blacklist to deny their opponents the opportunity for unfettered expression and speech.
In this, they act like the worst Nazi Gestapo agent or Soviet or Chinese Commie bureaucrat; they mimic the most petty, egotistical, insignificant, mustachioed, mirrored-sunglassed, be-medalled, cheap-uniformed, tinpot banana republic dictator. (deep breath)
“We must speak and not be opposed in our views, as we know that our views are the correct ones!”, they seem to declare.
So, when some conservative once too often challenges their facts or figures, offering other facts and figures in refutation, off into Siberia they go, languishing in the blacklist gulag, unable to post on the blacklister‘s articles.

This is patently unfair. Now, there are some I’ve seen in my year on JU who have deserved blacklisting, and even probationary banning, but too often the blacklist is simply used by posters as a weapon instead of a punishment, as it should be.

I oppose blacklisting; if you don’t agree with me, that’s cool. I might think you’re a tree-hugging moron or some kinda Pencil Neck Geek (“Classy Freddy” Blassy, remember him?), but that’s your problem. I’ll accept any opposing views, and will answer them as best I can. Sometimes I can’t, and that’s okay, too. After all, “a man’s got to know his limitations.” (“Dirty” Harry Callahan--Magnum Force--1973)
Others here need to do the same, instead of simply killing the messenger.

Comments (Page 1)
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on Sep 06, 2005
I've blacklisted exactly two people. One was a "character" and one was a liberal. I've taken the real person off my blacklist already.

Blacklisting is a personal choice and our experience on JU is what we make of it. We have the option of molding it into what we find satisfying.

If you love debate, then sure, never blacklist. If you are sensitive and get your feelings hurt easily, go ahead, blacklist abrasive JUs.

If I detest someone's attitude I won't hesitate to blacklist them. Why should I allow them to crap all over my day?

As far as frequent blacklisters most often being liberal, I'm not sure how you could possibly know this. You know who has blacklisted YOU. That's all you know.
on Sep 06, 2005
See, lil' whip? I'm, avoiding plagarism by crediting the originators of those quotes! It's not that hard, is it?
on Sep 06, 2005
As far as frequent blacklisters most often being liberal, I'm not sure how you could possibly know this.


I admit that this is just a personal observation, and that I really do not "KNOW" this for a fact, but I have noticed that some the lefties on here seem to be the most "sensitive" to attack, which makes them the most likely, to my mind, at least, to employ the blacklist.

(in case you hadn't picked up on it, Tex, this is aimed at one particular person, but, if someone else reads it and it applies to them, then great)
on Sep 06, 2005
I black list people all the time.  I don't care if people comment on my articles and if they say things I feel are obnoxious or unwanted then I make them go away.
on Sep 06, 2005
Why should I allow them to crap all over my day?
--TexW

Because they have the right to be complete jerks and do the crapping. If you're going to put something out there, you should accept that not everyone is going to accept it.
on Sep 06, 2005
I black list people all the time. I don't care if people comment on my articles and if they say things I feel are obnoxious or unwanted then I make them go away.
---Draginol

Because they have the right to be complete jerks and do the crapping. If you're going to put something out there, you should accept that not everyone is going to accept it.
---Rightwinger

Although, since it's your site, you have the right more than anyone else does to decide what is and isn't worthy of posting. Still, they do have a right to be heard, no matter what.
on Sep 06, 2005
I too have been at JU a year, and in that time blacklisted one man for his "dirty little insinuation" ( a sexual inuendo)
another for ragging on other Ju posters, ( I won't have people spewing their venom in my home or on my blog)
and one for profanity. I won't have people in my home that have gutter mouths so don't want it where I keep a log of my
life ( boring as it might be to some).
I sure wouldn't blacklist someone because I don't agree with them, only if they have to resort to swearing, name-calling,
and in general behaving in an offensive matter instead of intelligently stating their position on any given issue.
And that's all I have to say on that.
Trudy
on Sep 06, 2005
Because they have the right to be complete jerks and do the crapping. If you're going to put something out there, you should accept that not everyone is going to accept it.


They have the right to say what they want. No one stops them from going out in their front yard and saying what they want or writing a book or a blog or an email or shouting it from a mountaintop.

This really isn't about rights. No one's rights are infringed by blacklisting. No one is silenced. They still have the ability to say what they want, albeit on their own blog or the blogs of others who have not blacklisted them.

I wouldn't let someone come into my home and insult me over and over again. Why would I let someone come onto my blog and do the same thing?

Why should any of us suffer the presence of an abusive person?
on Sep 06, 2005

I blacklisted one person, since banned.  Not because I disagreed with him (I did), but because he was a one trick pony and it did not matter what the subject was, he tried to turn it into his goosestepping nazi loving smugfest.

I threatened others, only recently due to a thread that I dont care to get involved with.  The warring parties did listen to my desire and stopped their bickering on that issue on my blog.  No futher action was necessary.

on Sep 06, 2005
Why should any of us suffer the presence of an abusive person?


As I said, some people really do deserve it....if they're being deliberately stupid just to be an ass, or terribly abusive in one way or another, sure....but I know that some people hereabouts do sometimes seem to blacklist in order to keep some people away.
Them and their annoying way of always opposing them with better arguments or more pertinent facts. It happens.
If they deserve it, sure...banish'em, by all means. But they shouldn't be banned just because you don't like their ideas and the presentation of such.
on Sep 06, 2005
it did not matter what the subject was, he tried to turn it into his goosestepping nazi loving smugfest.


Hmmmm....gee, wonder who that might have been?
on Sep 06, 2005
Other than the middle of the second paragraph, good article.
on Sep 06, 2005
Other than the middle of the second paragraph, good article.
--Philo

Thanks....tried to make it a little lighter in tone, but I guess I failed, huh?
on Sep 06, 2005

Hmmmm....gee, wonder who that might have been?

Sounds like (tugging ear) Mickey Mouse.

on Sep 06, 2005
I blacklisted Karma once... we tend to get on each other's nerves. And Brad's, on occasion... lol...

Dan
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