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The only real solution, in my mind.
Published on November 14, 2006 By Rightwinger In War on Terror
Yes, I think the Democrats may be right, for a change. It’s time we started talking. Negotiations do indeed seem the only way to resolve the current situation with the Islamic Fundamentalists and terrorists.
Pull out of Iraq, bring the troops home. Allow the area to settle a bit. Let the Islamists do as they will, and just live and let live.

You know, I really think we should invite their leaders to the table, just to talk. Embrace them; find out what motivates them, what makes them hate us so much. We need to try and understand what makes them tick.

Then, when we’ve at last come to a better understanding of them, and them of us, the representatives in the American delegation should stand up, take out machine guns and mow them down like zombies in a George Romero flick.
Shoot them like Michael Corleone shot Virgil Sollozzo and Captain McCluskey; like Han Solo shot Greedo. Right across the table of peace (although Greedo DID have the drop on Han).
After that, we take our new understanding of them and use it to kill them in droves, to butcher them by the bushel. Then, we drop a few tactical nukes on their strongholds. After all, they do respect strength and force.
Once we’ve done all that, we invite them back for a talk. Maybe then things will work out better. I’m all for this plan.

Show of hands?

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on Nov 17, 2006
Not bad, just smarter than the average.


Heh, heh...I've been told that by more than a few people.

Good analogy....very well put.


I thought so, too. Thanks.

~Zoo

on Nov 18, 2006
How about you place yourself into their shoes, would you still do it?
---SiPo (Lucas)

I know this was addressed to the Doc, but let's not forget that, at the time, the nation was seized with hysteria. The Japanese had attacked us, suddenly we were very much involved in a war most of the nation had very much hoped to avoid, and here we had this potential Fifth Column---potential spies and saboteurs---right here on our shores.
Yeah, there were Germans here, too, but as I pointed out, it was the Japs that had attacked us, and they're much easier to pick out than Germans. So, it was pushed through that the Japanese-Americans should be interned.
Not that that makes it right; after all, there may have been some underhanded economic and/or even racist motivations, but who knows....doing so just may, indeed, have prevented deadly sabotage and intrigue here. We'll never know...why? Because they were rounded up and sent to camps. If they hadn't been, there just may HAVE been sabotage resulting in death, and Japanese spying here.
And the FBI and OSS (the forerunner of the CIA---see, back before the Clinton era, when Janet Reno built a legal wall between the two agencies, they did work well together) did work to keep an eye on many German-Americans, people of German citizenship residing in America, and many people, including diplomats, from Axis-affiliated nations. The Germans weren't completely ignored.

Should we round up all American Muslims? No, of course not.... why? Because we now have technology now that would allow us to keep an eye on them in other ways. They should still be suspected, if only for basic security reason. That, I think, should be done. It's stupid and counter-productive that we're not doing so.
After all,just the other day, they arrested a guy in Detroit (of course---Little Fallujah); he was on his way from Nigeria to Phoenix.
On his laptop, he had information about Cyanide and nuclear materials, and he had with him nearly 80 grand in cash. I'm sure he was just going to do some Christmas shopping, right?
Who knows how many people get past us? Political Correctness will be our downfall, trust me.
Moonbat Bela Pelosi wants to make profiling of Middle Eastern peoples a crime punishable by law. That should be a crime, right there. I'd call it treason.
on Nov 18, 2006
Political Correctness will be our downfall, trust me.
Moonbat Bela Pelosi wants to make profiling of Middle Eastern peoples a crime punishable by law.


If you're worried about being bitten by a rattlesnake you don't watch the trees for squirrels. The whole PC mentality will indeed destroy this country if it continues unchecked.
on Nov 18, 2006
Lots of cheap shots in this thread.
on Nov 18, 2006
Lots of cheap shots in this thread.


Kalua, Whiskey....Mmmmm


Ohhhh, right...'those' cheap shots.



~L
on Nov 18, 2006
know this was addressed to the Doc, but let's not forget that, at the time, the nation was seized with hysteria. The Japanese had attacked us, suddenly we were very much involved in a war most of the nation had very much hoped to avoid, and here we had this potential Fifth Column---potential spies and saboteurs---right here on our shores.
Yeah, there were Germans here, too, but as I pointed out, it was the Japs that had attacked us, and they're much easier to pick out than Germans. So, it was pushed through that the Japanese-Americans should be interned.
Not that that makes it right; after all, there may have been some underhanded economic and/or even racist motivations, but who knows....doing so just may, indeed, have prevented deadly sabotage and intrigue here. We'll never know...why? Because they were rounded up and sent to camps. If they hadn't been, there just may HAVE been sabotage resulting in death, and Japanese spying here.
And the FBI and OSS (the forerunner of the CIA---see, back before the Clinton era, when Janet Reno built a legal wall between the two agencies, they did work well together) did work to keep an eye on many German-Americans, people of German citizenship residing in America, and many people, including diplomats, from Axis-affiliated nations. The Germans weren't completely ignored.

Should we round up all American Muslims? No, of course not.... why? Because we now have technology now that would allow us to keep an eye on them in other ways. They should still be suspected, if only for basic security reason. That, I think, should be done. It's stupid and counter-productive that we're not doing so.
After all,just the other day, they arrested a guy in Detroit (of course---Little Fallujah); he was on his way from Nigeria to Phoenix.
On his laptop, he had information about Cyanide and nuclear materials, and he had with him nearly 80 grand in cash. I'm sure he was just going to do some Christmas shopping, right?
Who knows how many people get past us? Political Correctness will be our downfall, trust me.
Moonbat Bela Pelosi wants to make profiling of Middle Eastern peoples a crime punishable by law. That should be a crime, right there. I'd call it treason.


I realize that,

Do you remember what John Walker Lindh showed us? That fanatic muslims don't fit a single mold, it can be anywhere, anytime. I dont agree with the way the profiling is going...in (from what i have seen/read) just those of middle eastern complection, just because the 9/11 hijakers,etc... are of middle eastern look. We could end up with another JWL. I see little effort exerted in profiling in general, then effort put in profiling those who are of middle eastern origin/complection.

PCness has its place, other than that - i too would like it to be tossed.

Who knows how many...white, black, asian terrorists are out there? I think folks forget that there are other terrorists out here, not just fanatic al quaeda/muslims.

I dont agree with her push for that, it's like the Dutch pushing for a ban on brquas, it's yet another freedom taken away.

I don't call it treason, i call it stupid. It's alienation of their base.

~L
on Nov 18, 2006
Reply #64
Lots of cheap shots in this thread.


Nothing intelligent to say huh?

Yet another cheap shot
on Nov 19, 2006
Do you remember what John Walker Lindh showed us? That fanatic muslims don't fit a single mold, it can be anywhere, anytime
---Lucas (SiPo)

True, but the vast majority of Middle Eastern, or "brown" peoples ARE Muslims. Sure, we COULD end up with a black, white, orange, green or purple Muslim, but there are far, far more brown ones.
So, if we could check the brown ones off the list right away, that would take many, many, many of them out of the equation at one fell swoop. It's a simple matter of practicality, which is something the PC mentality just doesn't grasp.


on Nov 19, 2006
"Nothing intelligent to say huh?
Yet another cheap shot"

Just making an observation, jerk.
on Nov 19, 2006
True, but the vast majority of Middle Eastern, or "brown" peoples ARE Muslims. Sure, we COULD end up with a black, white, orange, green or purple Muslim, but there are far, far more brown ones.
So, if we could check the brown ones off the list right away, that would take many, many, many of them out of the equation at one fell swoop. It's a simple matter of practicality, which is something the PC mentality just doesn't grasp.


Meh, i guess so.
on Nov 21, 2006

I'm not that type of liberal. In fact, I'm for gun rights. I feel that everyone has the right to bear arms, but only when they use that right to harm others - then their right is forfeited.


I'm sorry SP but you're contradicting yourself here. According to you it's okay to own a gun, but not to use it to protect ones self. What a load!
on Nov 21, 2006
I'm sorry SP but you're contradicting yourself here. According to you it's okay to own a gun, but not to use it to protect ones self. What a load!
---drmiler

Weeelll....I think that's kind of splitting hairs, drm....I think he meant if you use a gun unprovoked. Now, if someone attacks you, that's another story. At least I think that's what he meant.
on Nov 21, 2006
Weeelll....I think that's kind of splitting hairs, drm....I think he meant if you use a gun unprovoked. Now, if someone attacks you, that's another story. At least I think that's what he meant.


That is exactly what I mean.

Sorry DrM, shouldve clarified myself there.

on Nov 21, 2006
You'd be surprised how much more dangerous guns are to you then a criminal at least statistically.

I know I was.
on Nov 21, 2006
You'd be surprised how much more dangerous guns are to you then a criminal at least statistically.

I know I was.


Yes yes, of course...the guns are going to jump up and shoot you...*rolls eyes*, it couldn't be the person who is handling the gun fault, no...course not. *rolls eyes again*



*picks up his eyes after rolling them too much*
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