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....Bush's lies? Not so much
Published on January 30, 2006 By Rightwinger In Politics
It's great when the liberal media reveals itself in such a full-frontal, naked way as Maureen Dowd did on PMSNBC. Are liberal politicians given passes?
Dowd said she liked the "semantic clues" Clinton would give when he was fibbing, so we all knew it. It was "poignant and endearing".
I guess Bush is just too unsubtle and ham-handed about it maybe, because she says he lies "in a bubble". She does not find his lies endearing.

These people spent eight years getting conned by a pro; a guy who was all sizzle and no steak (unless you count the one in his pants---sorry, couldn't resist), and they're still charmed by him. Amazing.

Comments
on Jan 30, 2006
Want to see the video as proof of the liberal bias? Go here:


http://www.michellemalkin.com/
on Jan 30, 2006
Nothing new really. Most US Liberals don't mind lies if they consider them "positive", i.e. serving their agenda. That's what they whole Lying for Truth thing was about. They think Clinton's lies are akin to a parent telling kids abou the tooth fairy, apparently.
on Jan 30, 2006
I think the difference is that Bill Clinton has charisma. He's an icky guy, but he's got that innate (smarmy) likability. It can be a very useful tool for a politician or a leader, if it's used constructively.

On the other hand, Bush always has that uncomfortable smirk on his face. I realize it's a nervous thing he does (like chewing on the inside of his mouth, which I do also (my mouth, not his) hahahha). I think that one on one he's good with people, but in public appearances he doesn't come off well.

I think it has more to do with things like body language and facial expressions and ease and comfort in "selling" a lie than it has to do with politics.

Having said that, though, I prefer a President who is not a good liar.
on Jan 30, 2006
Having said that, though, I prefer a President who is not a good liar.


I totally agree. I wouldn't say Clinton was a good liar though. He was sooo smarmy that I felt I couldn't trust anything he said. Hillary's whole cry of the "vast right wing conspiracy" against him didn't help either. I always wondered if he had her fooled or if she just played along due to her own agenda. I tend to believe the latter and don't doubt she would say pretty much anything if it moved her forward toward the white house.
on Jan 31, 2006
They think Clinton's lies are akin to a parent telling kids abou the tooth fairy, apparently.
---Baker

But the Tooth Fairy GIVES you money.



He's an icky guy, but he's got that innate (smarmy) likability.
---Tex W.

Nice pic, Tex. I like the specs. Cool frames.
Yes, he is icky; "oily" would be a better term, I think.


It can be a very useful tool for a politician or a leader, if it's used constructively.
---TW

My problem with him is that he dodged too much. He bobbed and weaved around responsibility and said whatever it took to get past whatever problem was in front of him at a given time. That's not a good president. He never really stood his ground and took any risks. It was all about how popular he was and how many people he could make and keep happy.It all shows in his "legacy". What legacy? Exactly.
Today we have a president who makes hard decisions, stands his ground behind them, makes people mad and upsets the apple cart in a lot of ways. His overall popularity is in question, but he doesn't seem to care a whole lot about his numbers. He got re-elected despite all this. What does that say for Clinton? Not much.



I think it has more to do with things like body language and facial expressions and ease and comfort in "selling" a lie than it has to do with politics.
---Tex

Clinton was a consummate liar; most conmen are. Eddie Murphy in "Distinguished Gentleman" was a great example of Clinton, really.



Having said that, though, I prefer a President who is not a good liar.
---Tex

Well, I think we can all agree on that point; Nixon was a terrible liar. He looked like he was lying even when he was telling the truth. Carter....you wanna talk smirks? Reagan, now....well, Reagan was an actor, after all, and knew how to deliver a line. But then, he had the benefit of having a goal and believing in it. Bush 41 was another bad liar; like father like son.



I wouldn't say Clinton was a good liar though. He was sooo smarmy that I felt I couldn't trust anything he said.
----JillU

No, he was an excellent liar...it's just that once he got snagged, we got wise to him. At least, those of us with eyes and ears and a willingness to use them proactively.



Hillary's whole cry of the "vast right wing conspiracy" against him didn't help either. I always wondered if he had her fooled or if she just played along due to her own agenda.
---JillU

She played along; she knew what she had. He'd been Bill Clinton for all those years before, after all.
Don't forget; this is the woman who more or less had a child to make them look more like a family and add some warm fuzzies to the cold calculation.

I tend to believe the latter and don't doubt she would say pretty much anything if it moved her forward toward the white house.
---JillU

You got it.
on Jan 31, 2006
I guess Bush is just too unsubtle and ham-handed about it maybe, because she says he lies "in a bubble". She does not find his lies endearing.


Know how to tell when Bush is lying?

He's moving his lips.
on Feb 01, 2006
Know how to tell when Bush is lying?

He's moving his lips.
---BenUser

Oh--oh, wait---AAAAAHahahahahahahaha! Whooee! Now, help me get back on my dinosaur; I fell off.


How can you tell when Clinton's lying?

He's awake.
on Feb 01, 2006
Maureen Dowd has already stated she has a rape fantasy.  need we say more?  WHo better than to fulfill her wish?