'toys 4 tots' programs only accept packaged donations. i doubt it makes a lotta difference to the kids whether the present is donated by a stripper or a nun.

if the club is licensed andit's a legal commericial enterprise, the money it earns is as clean as any other legitimate business. certainly not nearly as tainted as the millions former rep cunningham confessed to accepting as bribes from defense contractors.

There was a little strip bar in Boynton Beach, Fl, called Morey's Lounge. I don't know if it is still there but it was considered "bottom of the barrel" for a strip club. They were always the first to decorate for Christmas on the main road, US1. They had a big and very beautiful nativity scene that was on top of their roof. It's not the same as what you wrote, but I thought I would share.

Jill's is a real dive. I used to stop at the truckstop there quite often when I was trucking. I always opted for the Windmill lounge across the street from the truckstop. No strippers, reasonably priced beers, and reasonably clean.

That said, I don't see anything wrong with the place trying to do their bit for disadvantaged kids at Christmas.

'toys 4 tots' programs only accept packaged donations. i doubt it makes a lotta difference to the kids whether the present is donated by a stripper or a nun.

---kingbee

I agree, but the whole idea of a place that celebrates immorality doing something for "the kids" is just hypocritical and leaves a slimy taste in my mouth.
Of course, the whole "morality" thing would be totally lost on a pissy, ridiculously liberal jerkoff like you.

certainly not nearly as tainted as the millions former rep cunningham confessed to accepting as bribes from defense contractors.

---kingbee

I'm sorry, king but I didn't think I wrote this to be a politcal statement. Please take your feeble attempt at making it so somewhere else where someone might want to hear your whining.

There was a little strip bar in Boynton Beach, Fl, called Morey's Lounge. I don't know if it is still there but it was considered "bottom of the barrel" for a strip club.

---KellyW.

Thanks for the post. Here in town, the "bottom of the barrel" would have once been the "Mid-City", a strip bar that used to be on Main St. It was a horrible place; ugly girls, dirty and always with terrible fights and lots of drugs going in and out. prostitution, too, of course. Best part? It was jointly owned by several local police officers. +LOL+
It closed a few years back. I haven't been to a strip club in a long time, but I've heard talk that The Hurricane Club would fill that slot now.

They had a big and very beautiful nativity scene that was on top of their roof. It's not the same as what you wrote, but I thought I would share.

---KellyW.

Yeeeeah, that's pretty tacky. Nothing says "The Birth of the Savior" like tassled pasties and sequined thongs (if that much).

That said, I don't see anything wrong with the place trying to do their bit for disadvantaged kids at Christmas.

---MasonM

As I said to kingbee, it just seems mildy hypocritical to me. I don't know. It just doesn't sit well somehow.

but the whole idea of a place that celebrates immorality doing something for "the kids" is just hypocritical and leaves a slimy taste in my mouth.

I haven't been to a strip club in a long time, but

So lemmee get this straight. The guy who goes to strip clubs somehow thinks he's any better than the strippers who work in them and then to top it off he wants to tell us about his problem with hypocrisy?

Oh man what a doosh.

Tell us all RW, what have you done for the kids this year?

Or do you assume you're doing you're bit for the kids when you stuff your dollar bills (sorry sir we dont give change) in the knickers of the solo mother whose got her legs spread wide in front of you?

it just seems mildy hypocritical to me.

Yep. You sure do.

I don't know.

No we know you dont.

It just doesn't sit well somehow.

Does it sit as well as you did on that bar stool as you drooled at some kids' mothers vagina?

Please take your feeble attempt at making it so somewhere else where someone might want to hear your whining.

Yeah. Why dont you?

So lemmee get this straight. The guy who goes to strip clubs somehow thinks he's any better than the strippers who work in them and then to top it off he wants to tell us about his problem with hypocrisy?

Well, first off, moron, you must have glided right over the part where I said I hadn't been to a strip club "in a long time".
Sure, when I was young and stupid I used to go to them once in a while, but as I got older I wised up. I changed. They're a waste of money. Like Tim Allen said;

"They're like a salad bar where you pay, you get your plate and silverware, you see everything laid out for you, and then some bouncer comes over and tells you not to touch it."

As I got older, I started going to church, more, and realized what a "doosh" (actually spelled "douche", you douche) I was. I'm still not perfect by any means, but I'm trying. Are you?

Tell us all RW, what have you done for the kids this year?

Quite a bit, really, but I'm not going to toot my horn about it. God tells me I shouldn't. Such things are between myself and Him.
Does He tell you anything? Only if you listen. You like so much to hear yourself, that you probably don't, though.

Or do you assume you're doing you're bit for the kids when you stuff your dollar bills (sorry sir we dont give change) in the knickers of the solo mother whose got her legs spread wide in front of you?

Well, all I can say here is that at least I stuffed dollar bills into "the knickers" of solo MOTHERS.

Well, first off, moron, you must have glided right over the part where I said I hadn't been to a strip club "in a long time".

Oh i see. So the guardian of our morality is a "reformed" strip club frequenter. That definitely makes all the difference in a landscape of hypocrisy.

I changed. They're a waste of money.

Haha. Classic. So you didn't give it up because you had a change of heart. You didn;t give it up because you saw it as immoral. You didn't give it up because you wanted to see the women as more than just objects of your desire. No not you. In all your Godliness you gave it up because it was "a waste of money".

Despite your claims of a superior morality the only reason you changed your ways was because you wanted to save the root of all evil.

Guess I'll be seeing you in hell.

God tells me I shouldn't. Such things are between myself and Him.

Thats a cop out if ever i heard one. Doesn't God also say something about those casting the first stone? Are you without sin then?

I'm still not perfect by any means

I cant believe you felt the need to clarify this. Are you sure you dont secretly suspect you are?

but I'm trying.

How? By bagging a bunch of people doing something good for children. Yeah you're a real saint.

Well, all I can say here is that at least I stuffed dollar bills into "the knickers" of solo MOTHERS.

For something that was "so long ago" you still seem quite of proud of that.

Perhaps you missed this part of my answer:

"As I got older, I started going to church, more, and realized what a "doosh" (actually spelled "douche", you douche) I was. I'm still not perfect by any means, but I'm trying. Are you?"---Me

Also, never once have I ever claimed to be a "guardian of morality". What you, Your Arrogance, might want to read into my posts is all on you. i have come, over the years to mourn the loss of morality in the world to self-superior pissants like you.

Despite your claims of a superior morality

---you

I never claimed to have a "superior morality"....I reserve that right for people like you.

Thats a cop out if ever i heard one. Doesn't God also say something about those casting the first stone? Are you without sin then?

----you

Of course not.....we're all sinners. Some more than others, rick.

I cant believe you felt the need to clarify this. Are you sure you dont secretly suspect you are?

---You

Once again, that right is reserved for people like you.

How? By bagging a bunch of people doing something good for children. Yeah you're a real saint.

---you

You know, you might just have a point here, but since you and I have completely different sets of values (I have some and you don't), I have to say that you'll never come close to having the ability to understand what I meant.

For something that was "so long ago" you still seem quite of proud of that.

----You


Only someone like you would see pride in a shameful act. I can joke about it, yes, but I'm not happy that I did it. We're all weak, Rick. Some of us try to be stronger and lift themselves above the things they did, some of us wallow in it.

Guess I'll be seeing you in hell.

---You

Maybe so, but it won't be because I resisted someone who was trying to uphold a level of morality in life.

I hope I'll have a better chance than you of you seeing me "from" Hell. I'll wave down to you.

"As I got older, I started going to church, more, and realized what a "doosh" (actually spelled "douche", you douche) I was. I'm still not perfect by any means, but I'm trying. Are you?"---Me

Any wonder I blacklisted him?

Any wonder I blacklisted him?

---Dr. Guy

Nope. If ever there was a "troll", it's him.

I usually agree with you. This time, though...I can't. I don't see how it really matters where the money/toys are coming from. What really matters is that some kids who otherwise might not have recieved any gifts are now getting something to open on Christmas morning. It's not coming from an illegal source, it's all legit and above board, so I'm going to take a sligtly Machiavellian stance here and ask you which you'd prefer: kids going without because someone put the kibosh on a strip joint taking donations, or kids getting presents to open? I know which one I prefer.

I'm also curious as to who you're more disgusted by: the dancers, or the patrons. Because it's obvious that you find one (or perhaps both) of them distasteful.
Oh, and by the way...I've made money dancing before. Yeah, me.

dharma:

I never said there was anything really "wrong" with it. It's great that the kids had that many more toys to go around. I just find it hypocritical and a little silly is all, as I related above. A little good Community Relations for the Den of Iniquity, anyone?

Good can be done in the name of evil, but not the reverse. It's not like it's Joe's Diner or Frankie's neighborhood beer joint down on the corner. It's a strip club.
I have come, in later years, to find the whole thing immoral, yes; because it is immoral. Tell me it isn't.
I fully understand that people often have to take certain jobs because they have to make a living. I have no problem with that.
But is it morally right to take off your clothes and parade around butt-ass naked and stroking your breasts and cooch in front of a roomful of drooling, beer-swilling drunks who throw dollar bills at you (I used to be one of those drooling, beer-swilling drunks, so yes, I know the drill)? No, it isn't. It's wrong on all sides (not the least of which is the COST of the beer in those places. SHEESH! Rolling Rock for $4.50 a bottle. Back then! I'd hate to see what it is now! We used to get drunk first, THEN go there. Buy one beer and nurse it. +LOL+).
There's no other job one could take to make a living? Maybe not to make as much money in a night, but does that make it right? No. It doesn't.
You used to dance, but you don't now. Good for you. You got away from that lifestyle, for whatever reason. Just as I did.