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Published on November 22, 2005 By Rightwinger In Current Events
Actually, as much as I hate these veggie-loving, cow-hugging morons, they might not have a bad idea here.
Though I don't like the idea that they're able to control an industry they don't like, I can't fault them for how they're doing it.




PETA to Push Hormel on Humane Slaughter

By FREDERIC J. FROMMER

WASHINGTON (AP) - An animal rights group that owns stock in Hormel Foods Corp. is trying to pressure the nation's largest turkey processor to adopt a more humane method of slaughtering the birds.

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals wants Hormel to use a technique that ``puts the birds to sleep'' rather than the current method, in which turkeys are hung upside down and stunned in electrically charged water before their throats are slit.

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PETA has placed a shareholder resolution on the agenda for Hormel's Jan. 31 shareholders meeting.

The resolution calls on the Hormel board of directors to issue a report to shareholders by next July on the feasibility of controlled atmosphere killing, a process through which the birds are put to sleep with inert gases such as nitrogen or argon.


Hormel, based in Austin, Minn., says three of its four plants use a similar technique, controlled atmosphere stunning, that renders the turkeys unconscious prior to slaughter.


The company asked the Securities and Exchange Commission for permission to omit the PETA resolution. The SEC denied that request on Nov. 10.


In its shareholder resolution, PETA claims that turkeys raised by Hormel subsidiary Jennie-O Turkey Store Inc. often suffer broken bones while being put into shackles, and some are fully conscious when their throats are slit. Others miss the neck cutters and are scalded alive in de-feathering tanks, PETA said.


Hormel denied those allegations in its SEC filing.


Bruce Friedrich, PETA's director of vegan campaigns, said his group offered to drop the resolution if Hormel would allow Temple Grandin, a livestock handling expert, to inspect the plants to certify they were using one of the gas techniques.


Hormel spokeswoman Julie Craven said the company has used Grandin's guidelines in its plants, ``but a group like PETA won't dictate who we bring in.''


Grandin, an associate professor of animal science at Colorado State University, said the gas technique should become the industry standard for slaughter.


``The biggest advantage is that you are eliminating handling and hanging live chickens on the line, which is stressful to birds,'' said Grandin.


PETA, based in Norfolk, Va., has submitted similar shareholder resolutions with companies such as Yum Brands Inc. (owner of KFC), McDonald's, Wendy's, Kroger, Applebee's and ConAgra. Friedrich said PETA has purchased $63,000 worth of stock in companies in an effort to force changes in how chickens and turkeys are slaughtered.


On Monday, the Humane Society of the United States filed a lawsuit against the Agriculture Department, asking that chickens and turkeys be covered by the Humane Methods of Slaughter Act. The USDA maintains that the 47-year-old law does not apply to poultry.


On the Net:


Hormel: http://www.hormel.com/


People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals: http://www.peta.org/



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Comments
on Nov 23, 2005
I don't understand how this is really smart, though. They are still anthropomorphizing animals. This is just a precedent that they want to set so they can demand more. If these were meat eaters, it might seem more valid, but these are vegans, so in reality their final goal is to do away with all this turkey killing altogether.
on Nov 23, 2005
Actually, as much as I hate these veggie-loving, cow-hugging morons, they might not have a bad idea here. Well, waddya know--common ground!
on Nov 23, 2005
If these were meat eaters, it might seem more valid, but these are vegans, so in reality their final goal is to do away with all this turkey killing altogether.


Give them some credit, after all, they can't very well protest shucking corn inhumanely.
on Nov 25, 2005
I don't understand how this is really smart, though


I meant that they're getting smart in their tactics. After all, if they end up owning a controlling interest in all or most meat-processing companies (a not-to-unobtainable goal, perhaps, considering the vast wealth of some of their membership), they might just be able acheive at least some of their goals.
Though "humane slaughter" is an oxymoron if ever I heard one and I see clearly the hypocrisy of their position here, I'd like to think there may be better solutions to butchering what we eat.

Though, as my man Ted Nugent said:

"Not acknowledging that death is involved in getting dinner on the table is unacceptable."
on Nov 25, 2005
Give them some credit, after all, they can't very well protest shucking corn inhumanely.


That doesn't mean they wouldn't try if they thought they could get it into court.

I have no problem with the way they're killed. Hell, I think everyone who eats meat should have to kill their own once in awhile.

My eyes don't glaze over at the sight of fur or feathers, but I think we should recognize that meat isn't grown on trees in the plastic wrappers. And then get over the fact of course.
on Nov 26, 2005
"I meant that they're getting smart in their tactics. After all, if they end up owning a controlling interest in all or most meat-processing companies (a not-to-unobtainable goal, perhaps, considering the vast wealth of some of their membership), they might just be able acheive at least some of their goals. "


Imagine how they would be recieved, anti-meat folks owning interests in slaughterhouses. Though I suppose their pet shelters could basically be called such...

Nothing ecomics can't crush. I don't know anyone that would pay extra for a turkey that was sedated before it was killed. They might survive, but it would be a marginalized industry like the rest of the organic, humane, tofurkey silliness.

For every member of the industry they bought up or pressured to change, another cut-rate one would spring up and ruin them.
on Nov 26, 2005
I live in Austin, MN, so this topic is near and dear to my heart.

First...these animals have a brain the size of a pea. A pea. Any suffering these animals might incur is very, VERY minimal, even if they did miss being electrically stunned AND having their throats slit, which I find VERY, very unlikely.

Second...the issue here is feeding people. I'd rather eat a turkey that was electrically "stunned" and then killed versus having one that was injected with a sedative. That doesn't make much sense for the safety of humans. There's enough chemicals out there without having to worry if the poultry I'm eating has been injected with some sort of sedative before it was butchered.

That's what it comes down to. Humans versus animals. I don't mind that these people care about animals. I love animals, too. I don't like them to suffer. But the fact of the matter is that we are their masters. We are above them in the food chain. They are here to serve us (or to be served TO us...hehehehehe).

Let me tell you what Hormel has done for this town. I teach. Probably at LEAST half of my students' parents are employed by Hormel or have been employed by Hormel at some point. Hormel is the lifeblood of this town. They provide wages that are more than sufficient, as well as excellent benefits for the employees. They are clean, at least to the naked eye. You'd think with all the "horrible death" going on just a few blocks away from where I sit right now you'd be able to smell something, or hear something, or see something. But I don't. I haven't, and I've been here since August. Not ONE second of ickiness.

I think that PETA is overestimating the emotional and mental capacity of these animals. Can a turkey get "stressed out" the five seconds before it gets shocked? I guess I don't know. The folks at Hormel aren't stupid. They know that if they want people to purchase their products, they have to treat the animals with some sort of dignity and respect. And my guess is that they do. If the general public heard otherwise, there's no way that factory could support fifty percent of this small town.

I don't understand how this is really smart, though. They are still anthropomorphizing animals. This is just a precedent that they want to set so they can demand more. If these were meat eaters, it might seem more valid, but these are vegans, so in reality their final goal is to do away with all this turkey killing altogether.


Very well said, Baker.

I suppose my opinion here is biased as well...I grew up on a farm where we butchered our own pork, beef, chickens, and venison. ~shrugs~ I think it's mostly common sense stuff, though.
on Nov 26, 2005
Kind of funny they want to ensure that an animal that will drown in a rainstorm needs so much protection.
(OH NO! It's Raining! Don't look up Mr. Turkey!)
on Nov 26, 2005
Kind of funny they want to ensure that an animal that will drown in a rainstorm needs so much protection.
(OH NO! It's Raining! Don't look up Mr. Turkey!)


lol...that's funny! Part of me wonders if these schmucks have had any interaction with a turkey. They're mean, stupid little bastards if you ask me.
on Nov 26, 2005
only the Peta freaks could consider "suffocation" more humane than electrocution.
on Nov 26, 2005
Mod...I was watching Penn and Teller's show "bullsh*t" about Peta and other activist groups. It was really rather frightening how fanatical these people are, and how they value animal life over human life.

These people want animals to just roam the earth, freely? No pets and such? Hmmmm...lets think about how much sense *THAT* makes.