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The Left wants America to fall?
Published on September 27, 2005 By Rightwinger In Politics
If that brings down a nation with it, that's on them. But, they need to be held accountable.

---dabe

Uhhh...don't forget, dabe. It's your country, too.

The above quote and reply pairing came from a post I made over on Modman's thread "The Left just does not get it."

I've heard this kind of quote quite a few times from people on the Left, and I really have to wonder if they realize what they're saying. "If it brings down a nation, that'll be on them."
No, it'll be on all of us, including those on the Left, who so seem to clamor for the collapse of our present system of government. What kind of government would they prefer to replace it? What kind do they think would slide in in its place?
Historically speaking, when a nation collapses under political pressure or violence, it is not usually a good thing for the people as a whole, as it is often a brutal dictatorship of some kind which takes its place. Sometimes, as with the USSR, China, Cuba, Vietnam and North Korea (are we seeing a pattern here?), one type of dictatorship merely replaced another, and the new government was often worse than the old.
I'm sure there would be no dearth of strongmen willing to kill thousands to sit in the Oval Office and dictate the New Order to the people of America, and I seriously doubt it would have anything at all to do with honoring the constitution of the Founding Fathers.

Do they not understand what they're saying and doing when they conjure these idiotic statements? When they distribute their falsehoods and rumors or work with and support groups that seek to undermine American democracy and influence?
Do they honestly think the type of governments these groups support would permit the freedom of expression and speech these supposed purveyors of personal freedoms and compassion claim to embrace?

I don't think they do.

Comments
on Sep 27, 2005
I forgot to mention Afghanistan and Iran. My bad.
on Sep 28, 2005
No, it'll be on all of us, including those on the Left, who so seem to clamor for the collapse of our present system of government. What kind of government would they prefer to replace it? What kind do they think would slide in in its place?


They want a socialist country.
on Sep 28, 2005
I'm left-leaning on a lot of stuff, but I simply do not understand the mentality of those on the far left (Think Democratic Underground). Socialism is more repressive than capitalism is.....there's not going to be any freedom of expression or freedom of religion in a socialist state...matter of fatc, there's not going to be much freedom, period.

Has history taught these fools nothing? Do they not understand why people are fleeing Cuba and North Korea? Were the asleep when the atrocities that were conducted in the former USSR became public?

It makes me ashamed to be a semi-liberal somedays.
on Sep 28, 2005
I was thinking about something.....

If they support that type of government (Socialist)....then their "rights" are protected. They wouldn't protest that type of government, since that is the government that they want to revolutionize the US with.

but the others that don't support Socialism....well, they would be the ones that are repressed....and oppressed. It would be the ones that speak out against that form of government that would be the ones that would end up being totally silenced. Which, I think is what the far(t) left really wants....a silence to anyone who disagrees with them on their radical views...

their government would accept them, while not accepting others. While, the government that the US has now, accepts them now, along with others.....
on Sep 28, 2005
In the book "The Century", by the late Peter Jennings and some other guy, there's an essay by man who, as a teenager, went with his family to live in the USSR in the 30s. His father was an avid Communist (and much of what this young man was told to do and not to do by his father sounds a whooooole lot like the stuff the modern Left supports or doesn't), and the trip was arranged and paid for by the American Communist Party.
This young man couldn't wait to go and live in the "worker's paradise" in Russia. He was so sure of the equality of the classes and prosperity he'd find after the revolution had ended and the upper classes had been brought low.
What he found was beggars in the streets, food that was inedible, living conditions far inferior to what he'd had even in Depression-era America, squalor and repression. An atheist, he was shocked and dismayed to find that the Soviets had created a new "religion" around Lenin and Stalin.
After a while, Stalin grew to distrust the emigres that had come to live in the USSR (no doubt he'd heard their grumblings), and many of them, the author included, were banished to the Gulag work camps. He was released in 1954 and returned to America a wiser man.
That's what so many of the Lefties today (especially the older ones ~~cough~~Hillary~~cough~~, having been indoctrinated by Marxism/Leninism in 1960s) think...what the author thought before he'd gone there and lived and seen for himself.