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Giggle, snort and chuckle over this all you want to; dismiss it as just another rightwing tirade. Go ahead; I’m right and you know
Published on June 8, 2005 By Rightwinger In Politics
You want to know why the Left lost the last two elections despite the fact that GWB is considered in many circles to be something of a lightweight? Because Gore and Kerry were just too far left for the common man to relate to, that’s why. Cry foul all you want about voter manipulation and stolen elections, but that’s why it happened.
You Lefties want what you fear most to come to pass? You want the Right to dominate this country completely? Keep on doing what you’re doing, that’s all.
Every year, you drift more and more to the Left; many of you advocate a Hydra-headed Big Government that sticks its business in everyone’s nose (something you seem fear when it comes from the Right during times of crisis, however; then it’s "Big Brother" or an imperial dictatorship or some other nonsense).
You continue to support causes that most of the average people in America do not (abortion, legalization of drugs, anti-gun actions, etc.). You want to distribute more and more of the pie to those less fortunate (a not ignoble ideal, done correctly) by taking more and more of that same pie from people who earned it and resent losing it.
Keep doing what you’re doing, and you’ll see a conservative backlash happen again and again, just like 1980 and 2000. Thing is, you’ve gotten worse since 2000, since the security measures that were implemented after 9/11. How you chafed under them! The fact that they didn’t really have all that much effect on anyone’s rights or personal freedoms and didn’t turn the US into an oppressive fascist state cut no ice. It was the fact that they COULD have!
The farther Left you drift, the closer you come to Socialism, the more average Americans will recoil. The more the Right actually will come to dominate.
You want to make America stable and just again? Want to put people like Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter and Glenn Beck out of business? Maybe start challenging the Republicans again, get them out of office?
Pull back a little; start drifting back toward the center, where most of America is or wants to be. You’re just not appealing to us; all the free candy and treats you keep offering the common man doesn’t matter one whit when the common man knows he’s the one ultimately paying for it.
This country used to run better. There wasn’t the enormous divide between Right and Left that there is now. We used to be better at compromise and negotiating for the good of the country rather than for the good of "our side" and our agendas. We need to get there again, and the only way to do that is if both sides come back toward the middle of the road. Since it’s obviously the Left’s ideals that appeal less to the average Joe than the Right’s, it should be you. Sorry, but that’s the way this particular pastry is disintegrating. You folks take the pressure off; stop turning government into a competition, and we’ll drift back, too. But you first!

Comments
on Jun 08, 2005
Sorry, but that’s the way this particular pastry is disintegrating. You folks take the pressure off; stop turning government into a competition, and we’ll drift back, too. But you first!


And why do we have to go first? That doesn't work with the whole negotiating peacefully thing you were talking about earlier. Why don't both parties and all the ones inbetween just start pulling back towards the middle without arguing over who's worse or whatnot?

I agree that we have been drifting further and further left, and that it's not helping us win any elections, though. It's not helping us in anything. America did use to be a better country; it ran smoothly enough, usually agree or at least agreed to disagree, and now everyone has so many personal sticks shoved up their asses that they can't focus on what's really important anymore. It's a load of bull, but the people in charge have yet to realize that, I think.

Cheers, Pads.
on Jun 08, 2005
And why do we have to go first? That doesn't work with the whole negotiating peacefully thing you were talking about earlier. Why don't both parties and all the ones inbetween just start pulling back towards the middle without arguing over who's worse or whatnot?


Because it's the Left that has skewed itself so far from the people. Their drawing so far to the left caused an equal and opposite reaction from the Right, which turned to more conservative ideals in response. If we're to come back to the center, too, the Left is first going to have to draw away from the radical ideals they seem to have adopted in the last 30 years or so.
on Jun 08, 2005
Technically, since the Right is currently closer to the center-mainstream, you'd have to say that the Right has already gone first, and it's well past time for the Left to step up and follow suit.

Assuming, of course, that Rightwinger's argument is correct.
on Jun 08, 2005
Right,

Nice article, but you're pissing in the wind. I've written several articles to this effect, only to be told by most liberals that I can't speak for why I left the Democratic Party; apparently, you see, their polls know my motives better than I do.
on Jun 08, 2005
Right,

Nice article, but you're pissing in the wind. I've written several articles to this effect, only to be told by most liberals that I can't speak for why I left the Democratic Party; apparently, you see, their polls know my motives better than I do.


Thanks, Gid....from you, that's a nice compliment.
Pissing in the wind is better than not pissing at all, though, and if enough of it blows around, they might get the message.
And at the risk of my being crude, I got pole for'em.....
on Jun 08, 2005
RightWinger I'm confused as to what your opinion of "the average American" is. Bush won 51% Kerry 48% much as a hate to break it to you this does in no way show that liberals are neccessarily pushing "mainstream" America away from them, it shows that 3% more of Americans like Bush policies over a Kerry policy. Furthermore, Republicans gains came namely from southern states (Texas?) not all over the country.

However, on another note I do agree the Democratic Party is drifting increasingly towards the left. However we aren't quite as far too the left as you think, it just seems that way because republicans are drifting further to the right.

And at last, tell your party members in Government that if they keep up their cocky (we get everything we want we have a mandate) attitudes and I can see your predicted remarkable gains quickly falling Dems. way.
on Jun 08, 2005
RightWinger I'm confused as to what your opinion of "the average American" is. Bush won 51% Kerry 48% much as a hate to break it to you this does in no way show that liberals are neccessarily pushing "mainstream" America away from them, it shows that 3% more of Americans like Bush policies over a Kerry policy. Furthermore, Republicans gains came namely from southern states (Texas?) not all over the country.


Good point, but I know quite a few conservatives who actually voted for Kerry because of the war issue. This was the only thing they sided with him on, however.
His overall view was much too far to the left for them. I would imagine that if there were just a few that I know, there were very likely many more out there somewhere, too, though I'm no expert on such things. This would skew the vote enough in Kerry's favor to give the election a slimmer margin.
Though I admit that a crushing landslide such as Reagan inflicted on Carter would strengthen my point, I still say that the left has gone too far over to appeal to the masses in general. This is alienating a lot of the populace.

Because we (righties) are the ones in power, thats why.


I tried to be nicer, LW, but okay.....
on Jun 08, 2005
However we aren't quite as far too the left as you think, it just seems that way because republicans are drifting further to the right.


See post #2.

And at last, tell your party members in Government that if they keep up their cocky (we get everything we want we have a mandate) attitudes and I can see your predicted remarkable gains quickly falling Dems. way.


Tell the people in your party to stop using the courts instead of the electorate to get what they want because they don't have a mandate, or I see the gains staying in our hands.
on Jun 08, 2005
just a tiny point for those from the left that love to point out how there 48% loss shows how mainstream the kooks are. subtract the population of the huge mega cities from that 48% if not for the hell holes of america your total would be more in line with low 40% or less, and just what areas gain the most welfare and entitlements from the left? huge mega cities, and that's why they vote demoncrapick.
on Jun 08, 2005
just a tiny point for those from the left that love to point out how there 48% loss shows how mainstream the kooks are. subtract the population of the huge mega cities from that 48% if not for the hell holes of america your total would be more in line with low 40% or less, and just what areas gain the most welfare and entitlements from the left? huge mega cities, and that's why they vote demoncrapick.


Good point, Modman...they vote the way the cash comes.
on Jun 08, 2005
Democrats don't even realize why they lose elections. When asked they come up with the usual "stolen election" theory or some other rhetoric. What's funny is you have the democratic leadership telling the American people that Republicans are "out of touch". How ridiculous is that?
on Jun 08, 2005
#12 by Rightwinger
Wednesday, June 08, 2005


Good point, Modman...they vote the way the cash comes.


not bad for someone in a flu daze huh?
on Jun 08, 2005
What's funny is you have the democratic leadership telling the American people that Republicans are "out of touch". How ridiculous is that?


Well, you have to remember that this is a tried and true tactic that goes back for.....well, just about ever. They still try to use it, despite the fact that it's more true of them now than it is us.