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I'm re-posting this for people like COLGene
Published on May 20, 2005 By Rightwinger In Politics
As a reply to an article COLGene posted today, I put this up again......


Among the many complaints I see here on JU and hear from other sources about American efforts to establish solid democratic governing in Iraq are complaints about the infrastructure there. Many opponents of our involvement there often point out that public utilities do not operate efficiently; electricity, for example, is or was limited to just a few hours a day. "Why is this?" they ask; "it always seemed to work well enough under Saddam...why is it that we can't get it to work? Aren't we supposed to be giving them everything they had and more? We're failing! We must withdraw!"

A recent article in the local paper here (it was on the front page, too, which surprised me, as it really is an extrememly left-leaning rag) goes a long way toward explaining the reasons why the utilities are not operating as well under the new government as they did under the former dictatorship.

A groundskeeper at a local university, Mr. Mark Haney, recently returned from a 14-month tour of duty in Iraq, where, as a Lt. Colonel in Civil Affairs Dept. in the Army Reserves, he helped the local government around Baghdad to get things up and running again.

"The problems with the electrical system were just one indication of what life was like under Saddam," he explained. "No, the power system didn't break down under Saddam, essentially because few people could actually use it." Under Saddam's rule you had to "have a special permit to have an air conditioner or electric stove. To get a permit required knowing the right people---and paying a bribe."
The result was that practically no one had either of these items in their homes. After Saddam and his government was taken down, the need for those permits suddenly disappeared, and air conditioners and electric stoves by the skidful could be found for sale on the streets, and people of course started buying them. The electrical system, neglected for years under Saddam, couldn't handle the drain; the military decided that adding generators would solve the problem. "The real problem, though," Haney said, "was that the lines were so old and inefficient that a quarter of the electricity was lost before it was delivered to the homes."
The same kinds of problems existed with gasoline. There were never lines for gas in Iraq before the war. "That," Haney said, "was because only a select few could own a car. To get a car required another special permit that, like so many other things, required a bribe." After Iraq fell, Iraqis began a frenzy of used-car buying that virtually covered the world, and truckloads of used cars began showing up and were purchased very quickly. The population of Baghdad is around 5 million, and there are few gas stations to service them.
In the sectors where Haney was in charge, there were about 1 million people, many of whom were now car owners who wanted to drive their shiny new vehicles, but only 32 gas pumps, which is the equivalent of having 8 gas pumps to service all of Fort Wayne, Indiana (which is the second largest city in that state, the first being Indianapolis, the capital).
One of the hard parts, according to Haney, was deciding what to do first, so he would go to the people and ask what they wanted. The State Dept. wanted to build schools, which was a good idea, but the people wanted things like water and sewage first, so they wouldn't have to haul their own to and from open sewers and springs or taps in 130-degree temperatures. So, Haney would approach Iraqi construction companies who would then bid on the projects to get the work done.
For $100,000 he managed to bring water service to "a violent section of Baghdad that had never had the luxury of water service under Saddam."
Haney restored water and electrical service to Zarwa Park, a local spot for picnics and family outings. He had the zoo rebuilt and cleaned and constructed new cages for lions, cheetahs, tigers and bears. He also had the concession booths and pavillions restored. As of his departure, thousands of people a day were visiting the restored zoo and park.
Accomplishing things such as installing sewers and water lines in Baghdad was fairly easy, according to Haney, because Saddam's regime had already had the plans drawn up so they could show them to the UN as plans drawn up by a western company and as evidence of progress. No one ever planned to act on them, is all. It would ask the UN for money from the Food for Oil program to do these things, then the money would mysteriously disappear, so nothing was ever done.
Haney said that he "tried to promote the advances made by American forces in-country", but "all the western media was concerned about and interested in was shootings and bombings."

One of the hardest parts of the job, Haney said, was making the Iraqis understand that the old system is gone, and that bribes are no longer necessary. Government now involves customer service and, though corruption of course still exists (especially among the Iraqi police and, since the US military police work with them, this makes the MPs unpopular and targets for insurgents. Regular troops, though, like the cavalry, for example, are most often left alone because they get things done), bribery is no longer the way to get a contract. There is a permanent ban in place on bribery and, as a result, the cost of construction projects has gone down.

Haney is a realist, though; he estimates that it will be perhaps another 10 years before Iraq will be able to come into its own and operate completely free of foreign intervention. In another year, he's planning on being sent back.


We are making progress, people, despite what the naysayers and doomcriers here in the States and in other nations say, and despite what stumbling blocks they put in our way.

I, for one, am proud of our military personnel there and and in Afghanistan and the job they're doing under difficult cultural, personal and military circumstances. Mark Haney's story is just one I've read like this, and stories like his need to be heard.

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on May 23, 2005
Here's a little cleaner joke for you, LW.....

Why did the Jews wander in the desert for 40 years? Somebody dropped a dime.

BA-dum-BUM-CHING!
on May 23, 2005
not me, just have been slowww...in getting some things.... Hey, that joke was funny, i can think of many different specific people to fill in as the jew part,instead of jews...
on May 23, 2005
Dabe, you are welcome to post here, just like always, but I find you to be a terribly myopic and ridiculously liberal moron. Just so we're clear.


Thank you, RW. And, just so we're clear, I find you to be blinded by your jingo nationalistic, ill-informed patriotic furvor and a moron.


Kind of interesting that you are having a hard time with my statement about you which was just parroting your statement about me.

One thing I noticed, dabe, was that absolutely NOTHING you posted here refers to the article I wrote. Why is that?


Actually, I just responded to the post by Island Dog regarding the Newsweek memo. It wasn't nasty. It was just a response to his, and I was just offering a different viewpoint. Yeah, it wasn't about your original article. I didn't feel like debating that, or agreeing with it, or even discussing. I was just commenting on dog's post. Sheesh, like this is unprecedented. But, at which, all the righties got all in a dither.

Things went downhill from there, only because drmiler gets so infuriated when I post anything that he doesn't read on his rightie oriented sites. Jeez, you'd think someone would wonder about this post, given that it was pointing out a pretty significant piece of the incident that resulted in the deaths of the Muslim demonstrators.

And, you stirred it up by inviting whip to post her disgusting rants and racist jokes. If I complain about the jokes, I'm considered to have no sense of humor. WELL THEY ARE NOT FUNNY AND THEY ARE INSENSITIVE AND THEY ARE DISGUSTING AND THEY ARE WORTHY OF GETTING HER RELEGATED TO HER OWN MISERABLY RACIST BLOG.

Geez, RW, what the hell is wrong with you? I suppose you're gonna blacklist me now, right. Just because I pointed out the obvious, that being that the worst thing I did was call that .....errrr...... blogger "whipsy." She's a classless, hateful, racist, disgusting piece of work. Says alot about you, too.
on May 25, 2005
WELL THEY ARE NOT FUNNY AND THEY ARE INSENSITIVE AND THEY ARE DISGUSTING


But see, that's where you PC people veer off into the woods...they're funny BECAUSE they're insensitive. Now, that thing about the Jews and oral sex? Crude, yes, and unnecessary.....but....kind of funny. That one about the Jews wandering in the desert? Funny because Jews are well-known throughout history as money lenders and good business people. See? The New York Mobs didn't accept Meyer Lansky as one of their own because they liked his shoes and haircut.
I don't hate Jews at all, but I can take a stereotype and have a little harmless fun with it. It doesn't really hurt anyone. Make an Irish joke...it doesn't bother me.
Tell me my mixed German-Irish heritage guarantees that my kids'll be drunken, goosestepping leprechauns with little red toothbrush mustaches. Okay...I'll laugh with you. I'm not a professioanlly offended person like you and your fellow travellers.

You want complete truth in humor? Okay.
Here's one....why did the liberals (figuratively) wander in the (political) desert for 12 years? Because Reagan and Bush kicked their asses. See? It's not funny...it may be true as a blue sky, but it's just NOT FUNNY.


Yeah, it wasn't about your original article. I didn't feel like debating that, or agreeing with it, or even discussing.


And that's because you couldn't debate it. It came from a solid source (unlike the Newsweek stuff). Also, you absolutely hate to hear of, and completely dismiss anything positive, coming out of this war.
At least COLGene has the courage of his convictions and did discuss it to point, even as he plowed right over all the positive stuff.
You know dabe, I used to be pretty ambivalent about you; I neither liked nor disliked you. But since I've had a little more contact with you here, I'm beginning to dislike you intensely. I see why LW can't stand you.
You tell all of us that we're the closed-minded fools, but then you refuse to hold that mirror up to see your own relfection.
on May 25, 2005
Kind of interesting that you are having a hard time with my statement about you which was just parroting your statement about me.


First of all, dabe, it's my post, and I can say anything I want. Second, I could care less what you think of me.

I wasn't having a hard time with it, I just took it a step further and asked you a question about yourself, one which you did ignore, as I knew you would.
on May 25, 2005
My feelings for her are not that intense, RW, she isn't even on my blacklist, in spite of her crude and vulgar comments on my threads. My feelings towards her lean more towards bemusement mixed with pity.


Hmmm...you're one racist, jingoistic, imperialist, nationalistic yet comapssionate bitch, LW.....
on May 27, 2005
"they're funny BECAUSE they're insensitive."

No, they are funny to you and your buddies because you all don't have the sense to know the difference, nor do you care. These racist jokes are NOT funny. They are insulting, demeaning, demoralizing, and dumb. Which says lots about the people who continue to post them and think they are funny.

As for the original topic, whether I chose to just read without responding or not is my business. It has nothing whatsoever to do with my "lack of an answer". You just like to delude yourself to think that. And, again, for the extremely dimwitted, I posted my response about the Newsweek article with some information which I thought was relevant to it, and to which I never originated the Newsweek tangent, and to which I got lambasted for freakin' nothing other than I posted something, and to which no one, as in no one even responded to the issue.

I repeat...... what the hell is wrong with you people?
on May 27, 2005
That's fine, dabe....(makes shooing motions with both hands)just go off and live in your little cocoon of a world where you offend noone (except people with brains) and life is beautiful all the time, thanks to liberal ideals.
Ethnic jokes are, by and large, harmless; they've been around forever, long before PC, were used by everyone and somehow our race survived the horror.
The cavemen probably sat around a campfire grunting jokes about that new race of upright walkers and how stupid they are. Only people like you see harm in everything you find offensive, which, in turn, is everything that is not on the liberal agenda (by the by...I bet you didn't read my "Commie plot" article either, did you? You should, but you won't).

This reply tells me that you very likely did not read this article. I'm not surprised; it casts a narrow shaft of positive light across something which you prefer to see only as dark and sinister.

Go live in your little world, dabe, and please leave the rest of us alone.
on May 27, 2005
I repeat...... what the hell is wrong with you people?


You People? That is a very racist remark. You really are a racist bigot.

What the hell is wrong with YOU (other than being a racist bigot)?
on May 27, 2005
Hee, hee, hee...nice catch, Doc.
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