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Not just humorless...stupid, too
Published on February 25, 2005 By Rightwinger In Misc
I was recently participating in Tex W's thread about PETA wanting to kill my Valentine's Day (although we didn't have lobster...budget constraints and all that, we did enjoy a nice tasty meal of BBQ ribs. Mmmmmmmmmmmmmm), and was reminded of an online conversation I carried on last summer with a young man from Denmark.
We went back and forth for a couple weeks (being from Denmark, a socialist country, he was hopelessly Leftist) and the topic did briefly touch on the subject of animal rights, due to a comment I made about PETA. He went off the chain when I said that I hated how pushy they were with their beliefs.
He was, as it turned out, a big supporter of animal rights extremism, and started quoting me an article he'd read (everything this guy had to say was either about or quoted from books or articles he'd read.....it got so bad that I asked him, flat out, if he'd ever had any real-life experiences, or if everything he knew came from books. His response was to ask "Isn't just being alive experience enough?" Cripes) about a group called the ALA--Animal Liberation Army (please see link).

He was proudly reciting the details of a raid they'd staged somewhere here in America, where they liberated several Rhesus monkies and chimpanzees from an AIDS-research testing lab, freeing them "from the torture" (his words). He said that this was during the presidency of "Ronnie Racoon", as he put it. When I asked what Reagan being in office had to do with it, he replied that Reagan was somehow directly responsible for the suffering of those monkies(which touched off another discussion altogether about the responsiblity of a given nation's leadership for every minute aspect of what happens during their time in office). I didn't get it, either, and still don't .
When I asked him if he thought it was better to test AIDS vaccines, other medicines and cosmetics on humans rather than animals, he said that at least a human would be aware of what was being done to them.
Anyway, when he told me about the "liberation", I of course asked what was then done with the monkies. I asked "They didn't reintroduce them to the wild, did they?" And you know what? He never answered me on that question. Even though I asked it a couple more times....he avoided it every time.
So from this, I can infer that, thanks to the overzealous actions of a few animal rights freaks, there may just have been several AIDS-infected primates wandering around out there somewhere, infecting other primates and/or whoever or whatever they came in contact with. Since this was somewhere around 20 years ago, I'm quite sure they've since then died of their illness, but still, the thought is scary.

Animal rights indeed....apparently, they have more rights than we do. Human life must be very cheap to these people.


Comments
on Feb 25, 2005
any kind of zealot is BAD, anytime your views about things causes you to totally disregard an oppossing view it shows the mind of a terrorist in the making. there are more than one kind of terrorist. many more.
on Feb 25, 2005
any kind of zealot is BAD, anytime your views about things causes you to totally disregard an oppossing view it shows the mind of a terrorist in the making. there are more than one kind of terrorist. many more.


Very true Modman, very true.
But these people were not just zealots who purposely blew up a building or attacked an unarmed crowd in the name of their cause.
They knowingly released disease-carrying animals back into the wild, or so it might seem, at least, thereby endangering all other animals (and humans) in the area in the name of protecting these few. That's not just zealotry for its own sake..that was just arrognace, shortsightedness and stupidity...a scary combination.
on Feb 25, 2005
#2 by Rightwinger
Friday, February 25, 2005


Very true Modman, very true.
But these people were not just zealots who purposely blew up a building or attacked an unarmed crowd in the name of their cause.
They knowingly released disease-carrying animals back into the wild, or so it might seem, at least, thereby endangering all other animals (and humans) in the area in the name of protecting these few. That's not just zealotry for its own sake..that was just arrognace, shortsightedness and stupidity...a scary combination.


you just gave a perfect definition of a TERRORIST.
on Feb 25, 2005
But they didn't do what they did to purposely harm others who disagreed with or opposed them...they did it to protect the animals and to save them from whatever fate had in store for them in that lab.
They did this seemingly without consideration as to what the consequences of their action might have been beyond the short-term liberation of the monkies.

A "terrorist" act would have been to blow up a garment factory specializing in furs, or perhaps sabotaging the works and blowing up the administrative offices in a slaughterhouse. I don't personally see them as "terrorists"(although such groups do exist), just well-meaning, if ignorant and misguided, zealots.
on Feb 25, 2005
Reply By: RightwingerPosted: Friday, February 25, 2005But they didn't do what they did to purposely harm others who disagreed with or opposed them...they did it to protect the animals and to save them from whatever fate had in store for them in that lab. They did this seemingly without consideration as to what the consequences of their action might have been beyond the short-term liberation of the monkies.A "terrorist" act would have been to blow up a garment factory specializing in furs, or perhaps sabotaging the works and blowing up the administrative offices in a slaughterhouse. I don't personally see them as "terrorists"(although such groups do exist), just well-meaning, if ignorant and misguided, zealots.


how could anyone with half a brain think releasing aids infected animals is somehow ok and sane to do?
on Feb 25, 2005
They only care for the animals, I guess....that's their goal. Anything else is probably secondary to that.
To be fair, I have to point out again that I'm only guessing, from the guy's silence in response to my repeated questions, that this is what they did. People like that, though, I wouldn't have put it past them.

What I had to laugh at, though, was when he said that the mistreatment of the animals was Ronald Reagan's fault, simply because he was president at the time of the raid. As though Reagan was there in the lab every day, injecting the monkies with virus and/or drugs.
I love the broad canvas they paint on like that. They find a way to splatter everyone they don't like, for whatever reason, with the same color.