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From the post I left on Island Dog's thread.....see link
Published on July 22, 2006 By Rightwinger In Politics
Robert Byrd (D; WV) has said, at the beginning of our War on Terror, that we should just forget about fighting the terrorists because, in his opinion, such a war would simply never end. We'd have "enough enemies to fight until Doomsday" (that's a paraphrase). What should we do? Why, negotiate with them, of course.

Of course, Doomsday is just what at least some the bad guys want, in this case. But hey; we should just sit back, take their barbaric, 12th-century crap and let whatever happens happen, because we deserve it. We've exploited these people for years, after all, dominating them with our notions of Empire.
But then, those notions, oppressive and explotative as they may have been, also succeeded in bringing at least a little stability to their backward, tribal world, and guaranteed foreign markets for their locally-produced goods.
More recently, we've been paying them exorbitant sums for their oil, which has made small numbers of them rich beyond the Dreams of Avarice at the expense of the downtrodden vast majority.
That is our fault, or so that vast majority is told. The Islamic mindset would be good at, and for, nothing, if not for its ability to propagate the nursing of ancient grudges and the deflecting of blame from itself.

Know what gets me, though? I've actually heard people call into talk radio shows and opine that the West (meaning mainly the US, naturally) is actually getting what it deserves......because of the Crusades.
We took it to them, the idea seems to be, so now it's our turn (of course, the fact that America hadn't even been imagined during the time of Crusades, so its not really our fight, then, cuts no ice).

Well, if you want to believe in Karma, perhaps they're right. Paybacks being a bitch and all that.
But....there's always a but. There were, for example, no nuclear weapons in existence when the Christian invaders took Jerusalem.
The only real biological weapons were the clay jars of venomous snakes and/or plague-infected corpses often catapulted into the ranks of the enemy.
In short, the ability to kill millions of people at a stroke was non-existent, as was the means to destroy the whole planet.
That is no longer the case. The means do exist now, and unstable minds who do not fear, and even would welcome, death, and who swear complete and official loyalty to no one nation or government (besides, of course, the unstable minds at the head of the Iranian government) are working hard to acquire them for use in their own crusade. We cannot afford to negotiate or sit back. Too much is at stake.

I've also heard it said that the problem with Islam is that it hasn't had yet its own Reformation, as has Christianity. Once again, we come back to the fact that weapons of mass destruction exist now. Given this fact, waiting for Islam to undergo the throes of religious Reformation (which could likely cause its more zealous factions to become even more violent and unstable) and come to its senses is not an option. Too much is at stake.

Isreal, at the behest of its Western Allies, such as they are, has spent decades in negotiation, talking and talking until it is blue in the face, to no avail.
Violence and death are still an almost daily occurance in that nation. The election of Hamas and their threats to the Isreali nation do not bode well for the future, either.
Isreal has given in and given in until there is nothing left to give. They stoicly take the jibes of the World governments and Press when they kill, often in surgical strikes or precision military operations, one or two responsible people in response to attacks that killed dozens of innocent Isrealis.
They tire of negotiation, for which I, personally, don't blame them, and Lebanon happened to be where the bubble burst. Hezbollah's action was the last straw, and another Isreali war is on the offing.
The UN sits by and talks, as it always does, softly telling them to calm down and come to the table, because this just can't be happening.
The last time the UN really took any decisive action was in South Korea, and that's been over half a century. Of course, in recent decades, the UN mafia has seen a substantial ebbing of its will, and has often relied upon the US and Isreal to be their enforcers, unilaterally taking the actions which they haven't the moral courage or intestinal fortitude to do for themselves.
I foresee, in the not-to-distant future, a flight of Isreali fighter-bombers leaving for certain targets in Iran, just as they did some years ago for certain simliar targets in Iraq.
The UN will protest, of course, as it has in the past, and will pass certain measures that will ultimately come to nothing. Privately, however, it will wipe the sweat from its collective brow, as once again, one of its enforcers does what it will not.

Isreal has the right idea, and has for decades.....take the fight to the enemy, protestations of the world be damned.
Someone, some nation, has to have the guts to do the right thing for the sake of the civilized world, before the situation goes so far as to be completely lost. There can be no negotiation....too much is at stake.

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on Jul 22, 2006
"Someone, some nation, has to have the guts to do the right thing for the sake of the civilized world, before the situation goes so far as to be completely lost. There can be no negotiation....too much is at stake."

Exactly. Enough is enough. Good piece.

King David never would have waited till now. He would have taken quick decisive action a long time ago. It's too bad it has to come to this for the sake of innocent lives.....but I say...Go Israel.
on Jul 22, 2006
I loathe Israel. I abominate, despise, detest, and would happily dance on the grave of every reeking Israeli corpse (just so you know where I stand). I loathe even more deeply those (primarily) American apologists for a regime that was birthed in terroristic violence (ask the widows of those murdered British servicemen killed by the likes of the prating hypocrites Begin and Ben Gurion). Any regime that would routinely murder children (dear me they're throwing stones again, let's fire up the automatic weapons; after all, they might scratch the paintwork on the tank) and excuse such vile acts is not fit to be tolerated by civil human beings.

I swear, I smile whenever I hear that yet another of these murderous devils has been slaughtered and had I my way in such things Israel would, indeed, long since have been eradicated from the face of the Earth.

I grow ever more nauseated by the apologetics of apparently intelligent people for a regime which routinely practices extra-judicial killing by Gunship; which routinely targets the civilian populations of other nations for slaughter simply because they are unwilling to kowtow to the filthy swine that makes national policy of land expropriation, illegal incarceration, kidnapping (anyone remember Vannunu? I thought not) and which blithely sponsors the crucifixion of women and children because they happen to be of the wrong ethnicity (no one remembers Sabra and Shatila either, right?)

Do not come bleating to me of the wrongs suffered by the Jews throughout the ages. Are the Palestinians of the generation suffering illegal occupation in Gaza responsible for the deaths in the extermination camps? No. Are they responsible for the Czarist pograms in Russia? No. Are they in any way culpable for any past wrong done to the Jewish nation? No.

But still the sympathisers with State terror, the apologists for apartheid, the excusers of child murder, prate endlessly of the wrongs suffered by Jews in the past; as if this excuses, or worse still, legitimates, the wrongs perpetrated every day against those innocent of any other crime than being Palestinian now, today. Crimes perpetrated by those who possess overwhelmingly greater resources, who use F16 Fighters to bomb neighborhoods devoid of even the remotest intimation of terrorist activity, who claim to be bastions of civilization and democracy.

But what disgusts me beyond measure is the palpable xenophobia, the stinking self-seeking prejudice of abominations such as KFC. In the name of Christ they claim justification for child-killers because, so they believe, they bring Armageddon (and their own supposed sanctification thereby) that little bit closer. In the name of Christianity, and the supposed 'rapture' of like-minded hypocrites and idolaters, they espouse the exact antithesis of Christian morality. May your God remember it against you, KFC, and judge you accordingly, along with all your fellow-travellers in hypocrisy, cant, and moral perversion who also claim to be 'Christians'. You revolt me beyond any capacity of words to make plain.

The one nation on earth that could make a positive, creative, and ultimately successful intervention in that wracked and wretched region by compelling the rabid dogs of Israel to negotiate honestly, the USA, will not do so. It is the greatest shame, and the true mark of Cain, that America refuses to do what it so easily could: refuses, because it is besotted by the idiot myth promulgated by such detestable vermin as KFC, moral pariahs and murderers by proxy all, that support for criminals such as Sharon (indicted and convicted by his own people as being directly involved in the horrors of Sabra and Shatila) must be unthinking, devoid of any element of criticism, and absolutely unstinting - no matter what horrors are practiced by the State of Israel in the name of its 'security' - because to do so brings closer, by some infinitesimal margin, the hoped for apotheosis of Christian history, the Second Coming of Christ.

More simply put, 'christians' such as KFC support the subjugation of innocents because they believe they will profit from their misery, since it brings the return of Jesus that much closer. May the spirits of dead Palestinian children torment you in Hell, KFC. There is so little of Christ in you that you might just as well be Muslim.

I hope he does come back: and that when he does you learn (you, personally, KFC) the truth of that old Tshirt slogan - Jesus is coming and is he pissed. You are a poster-child for everything you profess to stand against.

And you, Rightwinger: do you support Islamist cells in their attacks on civilians? Did you rejoice when the Saudi Jihadis murdered 3000 in New York? No? Then why support those who deny judicial process through murder by Gunship? You lament and decry the inability of the UN to be effective: do you also decry the flagrant breach of every Security Council Resolution levied against it by Israel? No.

Instead you mouth nonsense such as this: "Isreal, at the behest of its Western Allies, such as they are, has spent decades in negotiation, talking and talking until it is blue in the face, to no avail."

Israel has talked for no other reason than to bamboozle the world with its stinking hypocrisy, and to secure for itself the unthinking support of American politicians and diplomats. In its refusal to implement the unending stream of Security Council Resolutions demanding that it cease from its barbarous and criminal acts it has marked itself, for all to see, as a criminal regime, a practitioner of State terrorism, and an exponent of the most shameless racial hegemony, not seen since the destruction of the former apartheid State of South Africa (with whom it was the firmest of friends and allies).

But that, of course, is excusable since its Israel that does these things: may your God remember it against you also, and hold you to account. Where in the American Constitution does it say that those who murder children are to be praised and supported? Nowhere.

But it hardly matters that the most cherished values of American civilization are spat upon every day, does it? Not so long as these vile acts are carried on by Israel, that great friend to the American people, who until today was happily prepared to bombard the airport in which American citizens had taken shelter.

Does the word 'traitor' have any meaning for you? I doubt it.
on Jul 23, 2006
Exactly. Enough is enough. Good piece.
---KFC

Thanks.


Emporer: Wow, touched a nerve, did I?

for a regime that was birthed in terroristic violence (ask the widows of those murdered British servicemen killed by the likes of the prating hypocrites Begin and Ben Gurion).


I honestly don't know enough about this particular subject to agree with or deny this statement. But since it was Britain that was the main thrust behind the founding of Isreal, I just as honestly don't see why they would do so. But then, you seem to know more on the subject than I.


Any regime that would routinely murder children (dear me they're throwing stones again, let's fire up the automatic weapons; after all, they might scratch the paintwork on the tank) and excuse such vile acts is not fit to be tolerated by civil human beings.


Though such deaths do sadly occur, I would venture a guess that the yearly death toll of Palestinian "militant protestors" (including children) in an average unruly, needlessly violent demonstration is well below the annual average of innocent Isrealis. People minding their own business and going to work or school on a bus, or enjoying a nice lunch in a sandwich shop, or shopping for fruits and veggies in a market, only to find themselves blown to pieces by a Palestinian martyr's nail-packed bomb. A martyr sent--or perhaps urged, rather---into Isreal under authority, actually, of the Palestinan government itself.
At least Hamas makes no hypocritical pretense of peace, as did the crooked, corrupt Arafat's PLO. Like Hitler and his Nazis, they advocate the complete eradication of their enemies, and make no bones about their intentions. I personally find that somewhat refreshing.

Child-killers?
How do you feel, Emp, about cowards who put children in harm's way in the first place? Who would use children and women as human shields? Who would purposely put a gun in the hand of a child, or maybe wrap him in dynamite, and send him off to die against Isreali forces? Who purposely bomb school buses full of innocent Isreali children?
Do their ideals seem any better to you? Don't demonize the Isrealis as child-killers when their barbaric opponents are far worse.

The Isrealis can't get along with the Palestinians because the Palestinian leadership can't afford to let them. To do so would result in a loss of power, and that just can't happen. I'm not saying I can comprehend the whole situation; I can't. I doubt anyone truly can, without daily living it themselves.
But I will say this:
This whole situation, from 1948-present, is nothing but cold, calculated politcal maneuvering.
The other Arab states, if they had truly cared for the plight of the poor Palestinians, could easily have absorbed them and given them refuge, or seriously intervened early on and brought an end to the violence. They did not; they opposed the existence of Isreal, and to give refuge to the displaced or to assist with negotiations would have allowed the nation to stand unopposed.
The Arab Palestinians, for six decades and more, have been used as pawns by their own people, and sacrifed in gambits, to the endless Middle Eastern chess game.
Isreal, despite your apparent loathing, does have a right to exist, just as any other nation, and has further earned that right in battle. Wars in which they quickly sent multiple, allied enemies howling for cover. Good for them. Go Isreal.

Do not come bleating to me of the wrongs suffered by the Jews throughout the ages.


I don't believe I said anything in my article about past wrongs suffered by the Jews. Let's see......nope, nothing in there. Take a deep breath, Emp. It's only me, RW. Just a harmless little fuzzball.

The one nation on earth that could make a positive, creative, and ultimately successful intervention in that wracked and wretched region by compelling the rabid dogs of Israel to negotiate honestly, the USA, will not do so.


This is complete crap and you know it. What definition of "honestly" are you using? How many times in the last sixty-odd years has an American president or Secretary of State made trips to that region to talk things over with the two sides? How many times has a tenuous peace been achieved, thanks to the intervention of American diplomats, only to be intentionally crumbled by the Palestinians, who can't afford peace? Besides, in recent years, the methods employed by the Isreali forces have been much reined in by agreements with US and other allies.


And you, Rightwinger: do you support Islamist cells in their attacks on civilians? Did you rejoice when the Saudi Jihadis murdered 3000 in New York? No? Then why support those who deny judicial process through murder by Gunship? You lament and decry the inability of the UN to be effective: do you also decry the flagrant breach of every Security Council Resolution levied against it by Israel? No.


The situation in America is far removed from, and not at all the same as, that in Isreal. If this nation was under constant attack, and was losing innocent people every day to needless, wanton attacks on harmless, non-military targets, targets chosen primarily for their maximum impact on civilians, then yes, "murder by Gunship" might start to look pretty good after a while.
Is it wrong, in time of war, to send missles and gunships to kill your enemies? No, it is not. Isreal has been at war since its inception. Their enemies consist, for all intents and purposes, of an entire race of people. A lot of collateral damage to be had right there.
Don't come bleating to me about the wrongs committed by the Jews on the poor, helpless Palestinians. Tell it to the families of Jews murdered by guns, bombs, missles, mortars, etc., provided for the Palestinians by Arab allies.

You lament and decry the inability of the UN to be effective: do you also decry the flagrant breach of every Security Council Resolution levied against it by Israel? No.


No, I don't....as the Useless Nations has often shown itself in the past to be slightly more than anti-Isreali and pro-Palestinian. I see no reason why Isreal should hold to its side in such situations when its enemies regularly, and often violently, break agreements and treaties, suffering only the sadly nodding heads and arm-on-the-shoulder of supporters and sympathizers the world over.


Instead you mouth nonsense such as this: "Isreal, at the behest of its Western Allies, such as they are, has spent decades in negotiation, talking and talking until it is blue in the face, to no avail."

Israel has talked for no other reason than to bamboozle the world with its stinking hypocrisy,


And the Palestinian Arabs are any better? Isreal, it has been repeatedly shown, would be content to live in peaceful co-existence with their Arab neighbors. The Arab neighbors are not so like-minded. At least Isreal doesn't mouth the words of peace, only to break the agreements it makes before the ink has dried.
No, that's usually up the Arabs, who hate the Jews more than the Jews hate them. Why? I don't know....blame Abraham for banishing Ishmael and and his mom to the desert, maybe.

In its refusal to implement the unending stream of Security Council Resolutions demanding that it cease from its barbarous and criminal acts it has marked itself, for all to see, as a criminal regime, a practitioner of State terrorism, and an exponent of the most shameless racial hegemony, not seen since the destruction of the former apartheid State of South Africa (with whom it was the firmest of friends and allies).


Blah, blahblahblah, blah blahddy-blah-blah.....and their Arab enemies are pristine examples of acceptance, tolerance and peace, right? Crimes on both sides, man; the mirror is cracked, but it still reflects.

But that, of course, is excusable since its Israel that does these things: may your God remember it against you also, and hold you to account.


Again, Isreal is in a war for its own existence. You know, England took part in many horrific acts in WW2, fighting for its life against Germany. Acts which dwarf anything ever perpetrated by Isreal on the Palestinian Arabs. Were they wrong to do so?

For KFC and myself both, this article is not about religion; the debate over the right and wrong of this war, and any war, really, is wide, and is open to much interperetation.
Though, I do myself wonder if Christians shouldn't be rooting for it, really, since the Second Coming would seem to be drawing nearer, if prophesy is to be believed. But then, Jesus said that there would be wars and rumors of wars, and even He didn't know when He'd be back.

For that reason, I will not inject religion into this discussion.

Thank you for posting.
on Jul 23, 2006
swear, I smile whenever I hear that yet another of these murderous devils has been slaughtered and had I my way in such things Israel would, indeed, long since have been eradicated from the face of the Earth.


And are you a blessed man because of it? Or a cursed one? You know the scriptures. I don't have to expound here.


But what disgusts me beyond measure is the palpable xenophobia, the stinking self-seeking prejudice of abominations such as KFC. In the name of Christ they claim justification for child-killers


have I said that? Hmmmm no I don't think so. Why is it that you need to slam me so much EOIC? Is it who I represent that sets you off so?

From what I understand Israel has done much to warn the people before they go in and bomb giving much opportunity to evacuate before hand. Those children who get caught in the cross hair is very unfortunate but I don't think Israel's to blame here. Funny I don't see you saying much about the 8 year olds from the "other side" who have guns strapped to their side and have been taught to hate since they could first understand the spoken language.

No the Arab's love language is martydom. Even at 12 years of age they are taught this is what they are born to do. We are on opposite sides here EOIC(that's an understatement), but you have chosen the side of hate and it shows in your rants here and elsewhere. Not only against Israel but against me as well.
on Jul 24, 2006
Why is it that you need to slam me so much EOIC? Is it who I represent that sets you off so?
---KFC

Many people take the notion that to be a Christian means you have to be a doormat; that turning the other cheek and being "meek" so we can inheret the Earth are the only things we should do. Not so....standing your ground and fighting for an ideal are tenets of our faith, and are perfectly acceptable. Problem is, we are told to do so with love. To fight with purpose, and without malice. That's the hard part, for any human.



From what I understand Israel has done much to warn the people before they go in and bomb giving much opportunity to evacuate before hand. Those children who get caught in the cross hair is very unfortunate but I don't think Israel's to blame here. Funny I don't see you saying much about the 8 year olds from the "other side" who have guns strapped to their side and have been taught to hate since they could first understand the spoken language.
---KFC

Well said. You kind of filled in some blanks I left in my above response.


No the Arab's love language is martydom. Even at 12 years of age they are taught this is what they are born to do. We are on opposite sides here EOIC(that's an understatement), but you have chosen the side of hate and it shows in your rants here and elsewhere. Not only against Israel but against me as well.
----KFC

.....Nah....'nuff said, here. Thanks for posting, K.