Two men or two women practicing their stuff can't produce children..by virtue of the fact the body parts don't fit. In their case, practicing their stuff does produce life, but it's bacteriological and oftentimes causes diseases, sometimes fatal.  

 

Having two people of the same gender as "parents" is intrinsically disordered and unnatural. So make a case.....why should we (society) subject innocent children to this intrinsically disordered and unnatural arrangement? 

 

 

 

Lula, you are a complete ass. You and your Bronze Age misinformation are unnatural. Please don't call upon me if all you can do is talk about your bigoted views. I spent a large portion of my life (45 years to be exact) getting rid of the bigotry my parents impressed on me, same for the religious baggage that promoted all that bigotry. Several trips around the world helped immensely. Your pitiful sensibilities are of no concern to me because you do not have an ounce of concern for anyone else. How you can pretend to just be a lovie dovie jewl all the while spitting out hate, conceit and bigotry by the shovel s full. Do you folks have to go to school to learn how to be that two faced or does it occur natural when you get your reality lobotomy?

You say we hate, GFT, but what I see from Lula was a genuine concern for the health of those practicing homosexuality.

 

As for how a Christian is supposed to act, we should love God and love other people.  This isn't rocket science, it's just difficult to actually do it due to our selfish natures.  Love means taking care of people spiritually and physically, but spiritually always matters more. 

Of course you do ... always matters first, but of course. I would just love to engage you in a debate. Bring all the biblical nonsense you want ... I do not need to bring anything, well my iPhone is all I need (and an internet connection). What a gas that would be. I do not think you capable of a one on one because you do not seem to know how to think for yourself leaving all that nonsense for someone else to do. All you have to do is play the perfect robot and question nothing.  I have read your book and I understand what it means to be Jesus like. When I look at Christianity today I do not see that at all.

That's because the ideals and morals that are drawn from Christianity are not forming the culture, but rather those of Secular and Atheistic Humanism are. 

 

Lula, I am going all the way back to the 4th century when Constantine nationalized Christianity which was the beginning of the downward spiral towards the inquisitions (the purging of religious competition and malcontents) all the while sequestering or destroying as much of the (known) world’s knowledge base as possible. Continue on to the Crusades which failed to take back lands that were never theirs in the first place, after countless deaths and destruction aplenty of course. Then we get to the 15th century when the papacy decided that the world belonged to Rome and sent their minions to pillaging the non-Christian world. Murdering much of the world’s aborigines and enslaving even more to be shipped back to Europe where they worked the rest of their short lives for European Christian aristocrats and rich and powerful church clergy including the papacy. The only reason you are pacifists today is because your armies of old no longer exist. And probably most are just plain cowards who can only function under a religious shield while they throw insults at and making demands of the world at large and they justify this nonsense by playing the religion-default card whenever and for whatever reason they choose.

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/petition-asks-white-house-to-officially-recognize-catholic-church-as-a-hate?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com+Daily+Newsletter&utm_campaign=ad535a9660-LifeSiteNews_com_US_Headlines_01_07_2013&utm_medium=email

Petition asks the White House to officially recognize the Catholic Church as a "hate group".

 

Lula the RCC is a hate group by any definition except their own??? I am sure many will find this petition worth reviewing so thanks for the heads-up. You didn’t mention the prize for getting their 25,000 signatures. The winner(s) get a response from BO himself why who could desire more than that, hahaha. You didn’t mention that they only had 1,713 signatures and only 20 days to go (hint, hint) to get the pleasure mentioned above.

I have tried to discuss some of the major problems with Catholicism (amply shown in this clip) and on every instance you made appeasements and excuses for them even going so far as to tote the catholic reasons why they were necessary for the RCC. I am tired of hummm; a few bad apples don’t spoil the barrel or some such saying. Well your bad apples always were and still are at the top and those bad apples do contaminate the whole barrel. The RCC has never and will never sin … my eye. I judge the Roman Catholic Church by the standards they set for themselves when they had themselves convinced they had a god on their side … as well as the processes they entertained to convince everyone else of perfection.

Short History of the Catholic Church http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSD1EW-FQBQ

The sad part is that you believe this nonsense still today; witches, demonic possession, exorcisms, curses and spells and who knows what else. But you don’t believe in science, you have no use for a practical education, you don’t trust modern (evolutionary) medicine and you view everyone without the catholic label as being inferior. You also seem to operate under the impression that mankind as a subspecies (until conversion) has nothing better to do with their collective time than to spend their resources and efforts on trying to destroy the RCC … hahaha. Yea, guess I would see that as hate too for sure … but a self-induced delusion none the less.

So you join in.

To that I quote Saint John,  "If the world hates you, know that it hated me before it hated you."  

As to your video clip, I've always acknowledged the people part of the CC are sinners. That's why Christ came, ..to save us from our sins.

But men who hate Christ and His Church prefer unrighteousness or their own righteousness, which leads them to suppress true righteousness so as to keep their sins undercover or worse claim there is no such thing as sin. That's what is happening with homosexuality. We (society) is now claiming that homosexuality is not a sin but rather just another lifestyle. The CC who has constantly declared homosexuality a sin is now on its way to being charged and persecuted as a hate group and why...for telling the truth.   

When the Apostles (and their successors and followers in Christ's Church) bring Christ's Gospel which tells men the truth that they are sinners, they are despised the same as Jesus was despised.

The individuals in the world from the time of Christ (Herod who attempted to murder Him as a babe in the manger), have various means and graduations of their hatred toward Jesus, and any turning away from Him is a joining with the world, and the degrees of hatred for Jesus' followers will precipitate accordingly.     

 

 

 

Not my kind of thing Lula … I don’t do hate anymore, there are plenty of catholics to carry that torch.

Not that simple Lula. This is just your get out of hell card and your permission slip to do as you please all-in-one. As long as one suckles with your church there is no crime or atrocity that cannot be forgiven for one of the sheeple. But anyone gaining sustenance elsewhere can be forgiven for absolutely nothing. Sounds super bigoted to me???

I am not “men who hate Christ” (call me Michelle if it helps) but these generic answers sure get on ones nerves. I am sure I know how you feel about Jesus … and I am sure you know how I feel about jesus too. It is silly to talk about fictional characters with such emotion (IMO). Homosexuality has been around way longer than christianity and I am not going to involve myself with your homophobic prejudices.

Lula when you promote your cause as the only one possible, a cause you will not even question yourself and one that nobody has any other option (IYO) than to capitulate to it … you had better expect a fight with pretty much everyone you look down upon. Your church doesn’t make friends; they convert people (voluntary or not) or they create enemies (voluntary or not) just because they cannot help it. I don’t have an ounce of sympathy for a church that intentionally provokes the world at large on all matters large and small alike … or the people who blindly follow it.