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I was going to put this in "Humor"...but Gerlyne didn't, put hers there, so......
Published on August 19, 2006 By Rightwinger In Politics
In a recent article, titled "Witch! Witch! Witch!", an article ‘which’ has since mysteriously disappeared (otherwise I would happily have linked you there), an erstwhile blogger made "coded" references to the effect that SoS Condi Rice was, perhaps, being…..well…..less ‘black’ than those of her race would like and/or expect of her; perhaps not doing enough for blacks in America and in the world at large(at least, that's how I took it).
As if simply being a black woman with the title "United States Secretary of State" before her name, in itself, and opening all the implied doors for blacks as a people, isn’t enough.

The article was no doubt retracted when the thin-skinned author, faced with the stark realization that some people here on JU may actually disagree with her and could back up their opinions with facts and solid arguments, reacted in her usual, easily-cowed fashion---by shutting up and running. By disappearing without even a modest attempt at a debate.
I'm sorry if that's cruel, but I've seen her do it too many times to care. If you have something to say, Gerlyne, and feel strongly enough about it to take the time to sit and write it down, at least take some initiative to defend it against opponents. If you're not gonna play the game, sweetheart, please stay on the bench, where you won't get hurt.

Now, on to my own article.....

Condi Rice, it would seem, is not black enough. Why is this? Let’s examine……

1. She was not born in the ghe-tto to a crack-addicted, single Welfare mother and a useless, absentee Pee-yomp of a father.
Instead, She was birthed to two decent, loving, hard-working Christian parents (her father was a Presbyterian minister, who later took a highly-placed administrative position at the Univ. of Denver. He was also a vocal protester of the Vietnam War) who loved their daughter and wanted to protect her and give her the best in life, so she could succeed and perhaps make something of herself in the future, which she has.

~~~As a child, she was largely sheltered from the injustices of Birmingham's discriminatory laws and attitudes. She was instructed to walk proudly in public and to use the facilities at home rather than subject herself to the indignity of "colored" facilities in town. As Rice recalls of her parents and their peers, "they refused to allow the limits and injustices of their time to limit our horizons."~~~---From Wikipedia

How could she ever truly understand the Black Experience, coming from such a strong, solid, functional, tragically sheltered background? She couldn't possibly........!

2. She is well-educated. Wikipedia states:

~~~"Rice attended a course on international politics taught by Josef Korbel, the father of former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. This experience sparked her interest in the Soviet Union and international relations and made her call Korbel "one of the most central figures in my life." " and "Rice graduated from St. Mary's Academy in the class of 1970. In 1974, at age 19, Rice earned her B.A. in political science and Phi Beta Kappa from the University of Denver. In 1975, she obtained her Master's Degree in political science from the University of Notre Dame."~~~

Speaking with proper grammar and diction, she seems to willingly disdain the use of pidgin-English Ebonics and hip-hop ghettospeak.
She says things like "Hello there, how nice it is to see you", rather than "Yo, Niggah!" or "What up, Homegirl?" or even "Fa Shizzle my Nizzle".
She says "May I ask you a question?" rather than "Cain ah axe ya’ll a kwesst-shun?"
She says "Could I borrow fifty cents?" rather than "Yo, cain ah barra fiddy cent, dawg?"

How can such a woman possibly communicate with and understand others of her race and culture, with such a limited education and vocabulary? But then, being such a lackey to Whitey, why would she ever need to talk to people of her own race, anyway? Shocking, shocking……is this horribly inadequate representative of their race someone blacks should be proud of? I think not!

3. She has the president’s ear, yet she’s not playing the African-American Grima Wormtongue to Bush’s King Theoden of Rohan. She’s sticking to her job and it’s description, rather than lobbying for liberal causes and to give black Americans the keys to the kingdom (as if they don’t already have them). She supports the Second Amendment, for example, because (Again, from wikipedia):

~~~"Segregation also hardened her stance on the right to bear arms; Rice has said in interviews that if gun registration had been mandatory, her father's weapons would have been confiscated, leaving them defenseless against Ku Klux Klan nightriders."~~~ Traitor.

Look, Condoleeza Rice is the first black Secretary of State we’ve ever had…well, okay….we had that Powell guy. But come on….he’s so light-skinned! And well-spoken! And he’s a moderate conservative! Come on! Can we REALLY call him black?
But then, for example, on the other hand, we have the undeniably talented and beautiful Mariah Carey, who, complexion-wise, is about as black as I am. And yet, the black community throws statues and awards at her, for being black, like a drunk throws dollar bills at a stripper.
Mariah has won many awards, mostly realting to popular music, of course, but she also, for example, holds the the NAACP Image award. Why? Becaue she's black. And famous.
Mariah, a goddess though she may be, dresses like a Hooch, makes the right kind of music, and mouths the right kinds of platitudes about her oh-so-apparent black heritage and culture. So, she gets the award. How many such significant awards and plaudits, overall, have blacks tossed Colin Powell’s way? The only two non-military/politically-related awards I could come up with in a search were:

~~~In 2005 Powell received the Bishop John T. Walker Distinguished Humanitarian Service Award for his contributions to Africa.~~~ and ~~~"Powell is a recipient of the Silver Buffalo Award, the highest adult award given by the Boy Scouts of America."~~~ Both from Wikipedia.

I guess, despite his integrity and personal success, he's not black enough for the NAACP. Sorry Colin, you don't fit the bill.

I’ve often said that if Mariah had made her mark, say, as a regular on the Grand Ole Opry and CMT rather than MTV and BET, black America would never have heard of her, black ancestors or not. How many blacks today remember Charley Pride, I wonder?

I guess, if you’re black and on the Right side of the aisle, you’re seen as kind of a traitor.
A black woman I work with, Denise, we’ll call her, is a rabid fan of the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Lynn Swann, a Steeler from the great old heydays of the 1970s, and a black man, is running for governor of Pennsylvania. As a Republican. Debbie is sorely disappointed in him, and sees him as a traitor to his heritage.

Look at Thomas Sowell and Clarence Thomas….both black. The first is a successful journalist, author and columnist, the other a Supreme Court Justice.
Both conservative, hard-working, successful professionals who oppose liberalism and want and expect people (including blacks) to take responsibility and to be motivated for themselves and their families.
What do they have in common?

THEY’RE BOTH TOMS! And, though I don’t know for sure, I’d be willing to bet that they’re UNCLES, too! FOR SHAME!

Nah…Condi’s just not black enough to do the job correctly.
Maybe Snopp Dogg would make a good Sec of State? How about Danny "I'm gettin' too old for this shit" Glover or Harry "Daaaa-yyyo!" Belafonte? They'd surely do right by the black man!

Too bad Secretary of State isn't an elected position......

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on Aug 19, 2006
I like Gerlyne, and have not really had any problems with her in the past. But that was a hate article. I was writing a rebuke of her when she deleted the article, so like the article, my response went into the nether regions.

But I wonder who was writing that. Gerlyne is from Haiti. Not Born and raised here. So she really does not know what it is like growing up black in the US, or even the south. I think perhaps that was her boyfriend talking. A man, who is american black and grew up here.

Condi experience some of the worst racism in her youth, and now in her adulthood. can you imagine the screams that would come from all corners if Cynthia McKinney was subjected to the slurs Condi gets? No, for Cynthia is a democrat. And so she is immune from the trash that is heaped on Condi.

yet Condi perserveres. Paul Harvey today had a segment on Perserverance. Above all else, that is what separates sucess from failure. not Intelligence. not genius. Not skill.

In that, Condi, not Hillary, is the most powerful woman in the world. Hillary is just a fame leech.
on Aug 19, 2006
By the way....I truly hope Gerlyne reads this. If you do, dear, please post. Don't be afraid, I don't bite. Hard.
on Aug 19, 2006
I find the practices of this particular blogger contemptible. She writes articles, then erases them when her position is discredited.

My point (I hope you don't erase this, RW), was that her listening to Celine Dion and George Carlin was no more indicative of her lack of racism than is my ownership of Leadbelly LP's. I find it absurd that she thinks she can get away with the "some of my best friends are white" argument to deny her own racism, while denying us the same latitude.

I further felt her attack on Condoleeza Rice for not being black enough was disgusting. While I am no Condi fan, I believe she should be held up as a role model, not a model of contempt.
on Aug 19, 2006
I like Gerlyne, and have not really had any problems with her in the past. But that was a hate article.
---Dr. Guy

Same here....I like her, but she's not willing to back herself up, and that's frustrating to me. She takes off instead of fighting. She deleted her whole damn article. What a waste of time.

But I wonder who was writing that. Gerlyne is from Haiti. Not Born and raised here. So she really does not know what it is like growing up black in the US, or even the south.
---Dr.Guy

True, but I guess she has been here a while, and who's to say her boyfriend hasn't been feeding her propaganda, too?

Condi experience some of the worst racism in her youth, and now in her adulthood. can you imagine the screams that would come from all corners if Cynthia McKinney was subjected to the slurs Condi gets? No, for Cynthia is a democrat. And so she is immune from the trash that is heaped on Condi.
---Dr. Guy

True...Cyndy is a good, loyal liberal black. She's not afraid to be easily offended by any percieved slight and play the race card when it suits her needs. Even if it detracts from the image of blacks as a whole. She's not a traitor to her race like Condi.


In that, Condi, not Hillary, is the most powerful woman in the world. Hillary is just a fame leech.
---Dr. Guy

The Left is full of them.
on Aug 19, 2006
she should be held up as a role model, not a model of contempt.


Exactly! She can hold her head up high and be proud of her achievements. The youth would do well to follow her example.
on Aug 19, 2006
I find the practices of this particular blogger contemptible. She writes articles, then erases them when her position is discredited.
---Gid

Yep...well said. (Atta-boy! intended)

(quote]My point (I hope you don't erase this, RW), was that her listening to Celine Dion and George Carlin was no more indicative of her lack of racism than is my ownership of Leadbelly LP's. I find it absurd that she thinks she can get away with the "some of my best friends are white" argument to deny her own racism, while denying us the same latitude.---Gid

First of all, I never erase comments from my threads, no matter what, and secondly, why would I erase an opinion that, pretty much, sides with my own?


I further felt her attack on Condoleeza Rice for not being black enough was disgusting. While I am no Condi fan, I believe she should be held up as a role model, not a model of contempt.---Gid

Then we agree! You get to stay!

on Aug 19, 2006
Exactly! She can hold her head up high and be proud of her achievements. The youth would do well to follow her example.
--jennifer 1

But they won't, because they'd rather believe those who tell them what they want to hear, like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, or maybe Danny Glover and Harry belafonte, and to follow Mariah and Snoop and all the others, rather than be a Tom and accomplish something significant with their lives, as Condi has done.
on Aug 19, 2006
Exactly! She can hold her head up high and be proud of her achievements. The youth would do well to follow her example.


From a colonial to one of the Great isles, thank you!
on Aug 19, 2006
Gerlyne is insane, period. There's nothing to like about her, period. The more you get to know her, the more dislikeable she becomes.
---LW

That's a little harsh, I think, LW. In my opinion, she's just very easily hurt and can't handle opposition or confrontation. I had an exchange with her once about a year ago, in which she had a few comments to make about something I wrote. Literally every time she made a point, she apologized for disagreeing with me. I felt like i was talking to a whipped puppy, trying to coax it out from under the porch.

I actually feel sorry for her, if that's the case.
on Aug 19, 2006
Well I won't lie...I would like to see Snoop in the position.

Can you imagine the looks on the faces of the world leaders when Snoop showed up in braids, bling, and smoking weed?

Buwhahahahahahh.

And he could barter a cease fire between Israel and Hezzy by saying. .."Yo, don't make me get my homies up in here! Aright?"

on Aug 19, 2006
And he could barter a cease fire between Israel and Hezzy by saying. .."Yo, don't make me get my homies up in here! Aright?"


very funny picture!
on Aug 19, 2006
And he could barter a cease fire between Israel and Hezzy by saying. .."Yo, don't make me get my homies up in here! Aright?"
---Tova

Yeah, well....I'd be willing to bet that his homies are better-armed on the average night on the town than Hezbollah at the peak of the fighting. Oh, and it's not "aright"; it's "aw-ite".

on Aug 19, 2006
Condi Rice is black???
on Aug 19, 2006
Condi Rice is black???
---Mason

Yeah. Not as black as Mariah Carey, though.
on Aug 19, 2006
. Here in Richmond, they can smush an entire sentence into a single syllable, "yite?" meaning "are you alright?"
---LW

So can Jeff Foxworthy. Must be a southern thing.

Observe the following:

"Jeetjet?"

"Nah-jew?"

"Nah."

"Y'onna?"

"'kay."

Now, according to Foxworthy, that exchange, translated into non-Redneck Standard English, goes something like this:

"Did you eat yet?"

"Nah, did you?"

"Nah."

"Do you want to?"

"Okay."
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